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  • #699694 Reply
    Emcee

    At least ur totally honest but still very kind. Guys, why are u so d*** with nice ladies!!

    Anyway, all the best for u! It is tough but remember there are ladies in here supporting you! Keep us updated still! Hugs

    #699706 Reply
    Lane

    You did the right thing here. At least you can stop feeling like your in limbo and make a decision based on his response that’s best for you. You stood up for yourself and that’s a good boundary to establish whether its with him or another man down the road if it doesn’t work out. I really do hope this was just a bump in the road as its apparent based on what you’ve said that you do love each other so I understand why you’ve been as patient as you have in the face of adversity.

    Please let us know if he responds or not. We had a poster (Sophia) go through something where there was a specific time frame, a couple weeks if I recall, as to whether he would be ready to take it to the next level and move in together—that what’s she wanted and was ready to move on if he didn’t step up and came here for support. She then disappeared when the time came leaving us all in suspense as to what the outcome was! Don’t be Sophia. o:)

    #699707 Reply
    Bedazzle

    I think its great!

    #699710 Reply
    Katherine

    I will definitely keep you all updated and let you know the outcome.

    I have a feeling he isn’t going to know how to respond to that message and will need some time to work out what to reply. My gut feeling is he doesn’t want to break up with me, but something has definitely changed with him, so he could very well be needing to end the relationship so he can work on himself. I really miss the guy I first met and eventually fell in love with.

    #699712 Reply
    Ali

    You were so grown up and kind about it! Maybe this will be the jolt he needs to see he needs to make more of an effort– perhaps not. either way you did it so maturely and you should be proud of that, as I’m sure you are feeling quite emotional. He could learn something from your communication skills.

    Wishing you the best, and yes please keep us posted.

    #699714 Reply
    Katherine

    Ladies….I just got a reply.

    It has been a pretty trying week for sure .
    I honestly don’t know where I’m at at the moment, with things going on the loss of a mate .

    I do know It really cut me up when you told me I was cold towards you after spending a week away with you and thinking it was good .

    Maybe catch up when I get home at some stage , I’m home tomorrow arvo so will send you a message after I get some sleep etc

    Please let me know how you suggest responding. I feel terrible that I hurt with my comments on him being cold. He really took it the wrong way and badly. But what does he expect when I get to his place he basically says “why are you back here”.

    #699716 Reply
    Raven

    So ask him… IN PERSON-
    “What do you expect when I get to your place you basically say “Why are you back here?”

    #699719 Reply
    Ali

    Let him sleep on it and let him get back to you when he’s thought it over. He’s being blaming which is not very nice given how thoughtful and non-judgemental your message was. And he did behave in a way I would describe as cold.

    I would let him sit on this/sit with this. If you jump all over this apologizing, things won’t get better.

    #699722 Reply
    Katherine

    Thanks Ali, yes, I actually don’t want to respond to that message as yet (I almost needed to put a jumper on reading it, because even his response was cold).

    I think perhaps the best thing to do is let him sit on it like you said, wait till he contacts me when he is home and had plenty of sleep.

    Raven – that will be the first thing that I will remind him of, especially if he doesn’t understand how he was being so hot and cold towards me. He can’t let me take all of the blame for this.

    #699723 Reply
    Jo

    He said he’ll contact you when he’s back. I think let him think about it. The key point of a relationship is that you can’t just think of yourself – you have to to consider the other person.
    Also when the other person tells you how they feel, you have to make an adjustment/talk/compromise. You were entitled to feel he was cold and he should’ve taken it on board. that’s what a grown up does. A child will just get upset, push you away and blame you
    He acted coldly, you brought it to your attention – do not backpedals and become his doormat.
    I think he has some making up and some showing you that he’s interested and cares about you.
    Please go easy and don’t just jump all in based on a so-so message.
    How will he react in the future when real issues come up? Will he shut you out every time? Is that what the norm is? Take your time and let him do the work. Don’t willingly jump into a train a year’s of misery with a man child when you could heal and find someone who would not dream of mistreating you.
    Believe me, there are good men out there.
    Sending you hugs

    #699746 Reply
    Lane

    Katherine, the two of you have different needs when it comes to space. I understand it because I NEED a lot of space, especially when I’ve had a grueling week and all I want to do is go hide away from the world for awhile. This is why I cannot do a full-on relationship at this time because I would start neglecting my partner’s needs, not because I don’t love them but I simply can’t give them more than what I have to give at certain points in time and that’s the crux of it.

    You admitted you need A LOT of time and affection from a man and he’s telling and showing you that he doesn’t require as much, so there’s no ‘meeting of the minds’ in this regard and that’s the root cause of this issue. Your both dancing around the subject but not talking about it in a way that allows for open dialogue and understanding. To be honest if my BF told me “I was being cold” it would sting and would take a few steps back and seriously consider if he’s someone I want to continue with. Not everyone’s rainbows and sunshine all the time and there are those who have a higher level of responsibilities (work load) that can overwhelm us at times and difficult to get it out of our head—we’re constantly ruminating about its very hard to shut off.

    I don’t know if the two of you can come to a resolution without one having to GIVE UP something that’s important to them, such the amount of time you spend together as that’s how resentment starts to seep in and a relationship falls apart.

    All you can do is wait until he returns and have an honest ‘heart to heart’ talk about what you both NEED and see if the two of you can come to a resolution without one feeling like they have to lose something that’s important to them (like affection or me time) just to appease the other—that’s the nut and bolt of it as I see it.

    #699751 Reply
    Yeah yeah yeah

    I honestly don’t think what he said was all that bad. He probably hasn’t put all the thought and energy into the texting as you have. If I were the guy, I would have been pretty turned off by your text…. It was too long-winded, IMO.

    People just sometimes need space.

    I would have said something like, “Hi X, I understand things have been rough for you lately, but I have noticed a decrease in our communication. If this relationship isn’t working for you or if there are any issues, please let me know.

    #699754 Reply
    Yeah yeah yeah

    Sorry if there was a curtness to my response, but there was just a layer of assumptions of his motivations thrown into the texts instead of just directly addressing the issue, short and sweet. Now there is an awkwardness to him having to clarify and justify his motivations.

    All it really boils down to is “I am hurt and confused that there is a lack of communication/distance between us… What’s going on?”

    #699755 Reply
    Newbie

    I think your text was good, so he knows you have some issues with how he is behaving. His answer shows that he was upset about your comments after easter. And that he needed time to reflect on that. You can just say: Yes give me a ring once youre back and catch up. And see how it goes

    #699772 Reply
    Aca

    First off, stop taking advice from Lane. Her advice to you has been terrible.
    Second, why are you apologizing to this man for not responding in a day to his text when he didn’t apologize after not keeping in touch with you for A WEEK. You sound so subservient and docile. Where is your pride. This man has been rude and cold to you yet you are the one who is constantly apologizing. Get your pride and confidence back, get your clothes and stuff back from his apartment and text him asking him where you should return his key. He’s not treating you well and taking advantage of your kindness and niceness and probably sees it’s as a weakness and naïveté to be exploited and taken advantage of instead of one to be appreciated.
    Why are you giving him so much control over you and the relationship instead of telling him what your needs and wants are and asking him if he can man up to the task. You have basically let him control the terms of this relationship. You still haven’t fully recovered from your last relationship so you are still so happy to take crumbs in this new relationship. Get into therapy to help resolve some of these insecurities instead of posting on the web asking advice from random strangers.
    And if he is sooo upset that you told him he was being cold to you which is a fact then can you imagine how he will behave in the future if you point out something else he has done that has hurt your feelings. And you think you are the sensitive one. If you don’t resolve this issue to your satisfaction (because in this case you are in the right) you will be walking on eggshells for the entirety of this relationship. Also why aren’t you guys skyping/video conferencing instead of all this texting.
    What exactly are you even looking for in this relationship and have you let him know. Do you even know if you are on the same page.

    #699773 Reply
    Marie

    Have to say I agree with Aca on this one. Sure, people need space, time alone, etc…but honestly, if my boyfriend didn’t speak to me for a whole week, I would seriously be re considering my relationship with him. He’s that hurt you said he was being cold? really? I thought your text sounded way too apologetic. Men KNOW what they have to do to maintain a real relationship with you…..he must know he is not really treating you like a girlfriend recently. His response to your text was quite distant and cold….as if you are an acquaintance. Would not be okay in my book.

    #699841 Reply
    Katherine

    I haven’t responded to his message, he did say at the very end he would contact me, so I have left it at that.

    When he mentioned in his message he was cut up about me calling him out being cold towards me, I was initially feeling sorry for him. But after some thought into it, and this happening 5 weeks ago, he should of said something if he was still feeling like that. As much as I try and convince myself it was all in my head, it wasn’t, he was a different person those two days around me and he needs to know that, regardless if he didn’t realise he was being cold, he was, end of story. I will also need for him to explain after I asked him not to shut me out, that he chose to do that for a whole week, why?

    The relationship can’t continue the way it is going, so I am hoping that when we do catch up, we both are able to get everything out and lay it all on the table. Because of his currently situation with having to stay at work for the 4 weeks after all this happened, hasn’t helped at all, as so much time has passed as well with both of us feeling like crap. I don’t want to break up with him, but he needs to understand my needs going forward and I also need understand his needs. But my only biggest need from him at this point, is communication…..he needs to understand that any relationship needs good communication, otherwise we will be in the same situation we are now. If he does something that has an impact on me, I need to be able to him and vice versa.

    I am hoping that this is a bump in the road and all part of learning about each others wants and needs in a relationship and being able to accept and accommodate it. Apart from those two days over Easter, our relationship really has been so much fun and we have allot of affection towards each other up to that point, which is the whole reason I had to call him out behaving differently towards me over those two days.

    I will also be telling him how much his affection has an affect on me, the fact he comes up and gives me a random hug or a kiss, it makes my heart fill up, that is all it takes for him to make me fall in love with him all over again. I don’t expect it 24/7, but when he does it, insert love heart eye emoji.

    #699853 Reply
    Bedazzled

    You sound good and level headed. I hope you two are able to find a workable solution for both of you and find a way closer after this. Good luck.

    #699861 Reply
    Lane

    That’s the next best move…wait until your together to discuss it and decide if it’s worth salvaging or not.

    I do not agree with him shutting you out BUT I’m also trying to add a different perspective that many don’t have based on my own personal experience of being overwhelmed with work. My BF is a saint in that regard but the difference is he’s personally experienced it and knows what my days looks like so he’s far more understanding v. someone who didn’t.

    Maybe if you shadowed him for week you may understand why he was ‘cold’ as I can be that way at times but it has nothing to do with a person it’s just that I’m tapped—exhausted mentally and physically and have nothing left. Please know I’m not making excuses for him, only basing it on a what you’ve mentioned about his job difficulties (understaffed; working longer days; with a lot of traveling and high divorces/suicidal rates)…just providing a perspective that others who aren’t in a high level stresssful job situation like he is may not understand….it’s a whole different pair of shoes one would need one to walk in to truly understand it.

    Let us know how it goes!

    #699873 Reply
    Ali

    HI Lane– I do understand and agree people can be less affectionate when under stress, I’m a bit like that too I think, but if you invited your BF to come over and you were stressed out would you then say “why are you here?”. I don’t get the feeling from your posts you’d do something like that– I get the feeling you are a communicative person who would give your BF a heads up when you are maxxed out and sure, maybe not be as attentive as usual, but not be downright rude, right? I’m still hung up on the fact that this man seems to be a bad and somewhat rude communicator– you seem very communicative from what i’ve seen from your posts, and I think that’s the difference that worries me here.

    Katherine– I really hope that this is a wake up call for him and he can learn from your mature communicative, and level head example. Truly hoping for the best for you.

    #699874 Reply
    Lane

    Ali, I agree and would never do that to my BF but I would have responded wih “because you asked me too!” then shown him the text where I would expect an apology. I get so overwhelmed at times to the point one of my employees (manager) has to constantly remind me of it because I forget—I call her my right brain lol

    I used to be excellent at remembering everything but my brain is overloaded wih so many tasks, customers, questions, vendors, orders (list is long) that its hard to keep up! I’ve been joking with my employees this week that I’ll probably forget to pick my BF up from the airport on Friday—I won’t but i will be reminded to do it haha

    BTW my BF reminds me of things I tell him all the time! I had mmtioned i needed to get to new wipers for my truck and a couple other things…still hadn’t gotten around to it! When he got here he not only went out and bought them but replaced them for me! I call him my Alexa 😁

    #699876 Reply
    Katherine

    Lane – your write that you boyfriend helps you out allot because of your workload and helps ease your stress by helping out with just your general chores etc.

    This is what I do for him. I’m a doer, it’s how I show my appreciation and love for someone, I do things for them. I don’t expect a thanks or anything, this is not why I do it, I just do it because I love the person. While he is at work, especially the long stints. I will go around to his place, pick his papers up outside so they don’t accumulate (then people know he isn’t home and the potential for break ins) just a general check when he isn’t home. Knowing that he is only home for three days generally, the last thing he wants to do is just general housework. So generally on the Thursday afternoon that I am at his place, I clean for him, just vacuum the floors clean the bathrooms etc, I also make sure there is fresh milk and fresh bread in his fridge all the time. Then on the Monday, I will take the bath towels and wash them, also clean the bed sheets every couple of weeks. I am there for 3 days of the week and 4 nights, so it is only fair I pitch in to help with these things. The first time I did it, he was so ecstatic and couldn’t thank me enough, I remember him getting into bed and going “did you clean the sheets” he was like, this is so nice! He also asks for help doing general errands during the week when he is away at work and unable to do it, which I do without any hesitation.

    This is how I show him that I care for him. As I 100% understand what he is dealing with at work, he then comes home to a clean house and also his favourite treats waiting for him (chocolates etc).

    #699880 Reply
    peggy

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    #699881 Reply
    peggy

    Katherine-he sounds spoiled,way too much! Honestly you are acting like a wife or a mother even-not good. I would cut that out.
    I agree with Emma and Ali-he is acting rudely and immaturely and this can’t be explained away with man cave talk. . Please let us know how things turn out.

    #699882 Reply
    Lane

    Katherine, I really do feel for you and would be really bummed out if I was experiencing the same thing with my BF. I totally understand how these SHIFTS can totally disrupt the flow and dynamic of a relationship to the point your going WTH happened!?!

    Its possible you may have been doing too much too soon? Men can get really weird when a relationship starts getting too serious before they’ve emotionally gotten there. The first time you did this he was thinking “wow, that was really nice of her.” Probably felt the same the third or fourth but by the 7th or 8th he may have been thinking “holy crap, is she wanting to move in?” I totally get you were being a super great GF but he may have been thinking you were acting more like a wife or wife to be? Or it could have been work related and couldn’t get out of his own head?

    All I know is that until you TALK to him and find out what was really going on with him around Easter when you noticed a big shift in his behavior your not going to get the answer you seek—only he knows it.

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