Is it normal to start feeling insecure and question things after a few mths ?


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  • #362837 Reply
    Lylah

    Hi Ivy
    Actually the date isn’t even locked in. When I asked if he’d like to catch up earlier in the week I got the wishy washy answer of “maybe Friday if you like”. When I think on it, this has been the regular response when arranging dates. Not real positive is it? I’ve put myself in the position of being his fill in weekly roster girl. I think it’s ok to break that kinda date? Besides, it’s now Friday and I got no real concrete reply to making plans.

    #363021 Reply
    Ivy

    Hi Lylah, Yes, the guy is wishy washy. When a guy says Maybe Friday if you like, then you could say ”

    well, I prefer to firm up that plan so if you are free let’s get together, but if you are not sure then let’s reschedule. Let me know.”

    That forces him to decide on the date and later if he flaked then he’d be accountable but by him saying maybe and you accepting maybe, he didn’t do anything wrong in his eyes that he’d have to explain cause he did not commit to a date and you didn’t force him to.

    Take the power position and be nice and assertive. This let’s him know without being bratty, that you simply can’t hold out on tentative plans. By not enforcing that on him you told him that in fact you will wait so yes, you did put yourself in a string along position.

    I think your issue is with assertive polite communication. Simply, you don’t know how to communicate directly so you don’t say anything and then resent when you realize you got left in a waiting game.

    Do you see how communicating assertively can make you have more confidence? He could still flake but at least you said your part. Even if a man isn’t interested in you he will respect that and you will feel great about yourself.

    #363023 Reply
    Ivy

    And as for this date, if he contacts you tell him that you have other plans. Just say that it was set up as tentative and when you didn’t hear from him you made other plans sorry, then say but if you like to get together on Sat. or Tuesday that would work for me. If he selects a day then cool. If he says maybe then say ok, gotta go, take care. Don’t contact him again. If he contacts you then play it cool not much text, or talk till he asks you out, make him set a date not in maybe land. Now, you might already be too tired of this guy but I would say what I said above even if just for the sake of practicing communicating with him.

    #363045 Reply
    Lylah

    Hi Ivy,
    I do have issues with being assertive during communications, so I’m definitely going to work on that.

    I didn’t hear anything further from him on Friday except late at night around 8pm ish apologising he had to work late and had a long day. There was no suggestion to reschedule so I haven’t mentioned it, I don’t wish to push from a needy position when I accepted his maybe plans in the first place. He was most flirtatious in text this morning and happened to drop I seem to have been a bit distant, which has thrown me.

    Keeping things a tad cool, but friendly, just following his lead now. And IF he should ask for another date with a flaky time, I’ll be sure to be more assertive in where I stand in future. I should make more of a stand on what I need without fearing how he may react. Just be me. I still have a lot to learn in the realms of dating lol

    #363062 Reply
    Yams

    If you’re in a situation where you need to know he’s into you or not because you can no longer stay if he’s not, then continuing trying to wait it out and read his signals is going to make you miserable. And why let this guy make you miserable?

    I’ve been there and after ages of misery I just came out and asked if the guy was interested in me, and basically said to him that if he wasn’t that was fine but I needed to know because I found his signals mixed and his effort lukewarm (not in those words obviously) and that wasn’t doing anything in terms of encouraging me to continue investing in him. (i wasn’t looking to be exclusive btw).

    I really don’t think it would be a bad idea to ask him where he’s at, so long as you’re coming from a position of strength– by which I mean prepared to walk away if he’s not where you’re at. But you have to be genuinely prepared to walk away because otherwise you’ll find yourself picking up scraps he’s willing to offer even if he doesn’t give you what you want. And to get to that stage of being ready to walk away, you have to remind yourself of what you’re worth and what you deserve. You’ll start believing it if you keep telling yourself you’re fabulous because of x,y,z and deserve more ;)

    #363107 Reply
    Lylah

    Hi Yams
    Thanks for the input :)

    My problem has been that “I” have been dating this guy exclusively so it becomes too intense and invested too quickly on my side. I see how it can be destructive now because you put all your focus on one man. Then when he pulls back you’re left confused with the need to know where he’s at. His actions are clear where he’s at, so I don’t think I need the talk – just to pull back and continue working on me and my life. If he comes back great, if he doesn’t I’ve accepted that and the things I’ve been learning have been valuable. I think the talk would do more harm than good… So I’ll wait it out while keeping busy. That doesn’t mean I’m waiting around for this man, it means I’m getting on with my life too. Not wasting draining energy trying to wrk out everything. Coz it was driving me nuts!

    I had been out of the dating scene for some time – one year – before this man came along, so have much to learn :)

    #363285 Reply
    Ivy

    Hi Lylah, If he canceled and didn’t reschedule that is not a good sign so you can do a few things. You can:

    Put yourself in a holding pattern, hope that he steps up and asks you out, while you work on yourself, maintain exclusivity, while getting nothing in return from him.

    Call and talk to him about his interest level in continuing dating and get a real answer, and not wait around for him to bring his A game when if he wanted to he would.

    Yes, you should have a talk with him. I think you are afraid cause you already know he isn’t showing much interest. Well, he isn’t going to become more interested because you are waiting around exclusively for him and not even requiring him to bring his A game. Look if this is all he has this early then this aint’ happening, that’s a given.

    #363333 Reply
    Lylah

    Hi Ivy,
    I admit I’m still interested in this guy when I’m sure most would be screaming why?? I’ve been getting on with my lift this past week so far. Just find it bizarre that the last few weeks he’s been sending sweet texts numerous times throughout the day since I started distancing myself. Guess I would be interested tbh to know if he is genuinely still keen to date or not.. Or just stringing me along. He’s away this week on business. Not sure how to have said talk as I’ve never been in this position before. Usually things just flow

    #363334 Reply
    Lylah

    Days* not weeks

    #363336 Reply
    LAgirl

    This is how men lead you on…. Sweet texts nd nod dates equals low interest and keeping you around.

    If he doesn’t start dating you I would put little to no stock into his texting. Read up on the term e tethering, or electronic tethering. It appears he is doing this to you.

    #363337 Reply
    LAgirl

    And no dates…

    #363345 Reply
    ava

    Hi Lylah,

    This topic has thrown me for a loop – I read your story and thought, ‘Did I write this in my sleep!??!’ Lol… because I am in practically the same situation as you and it sucks!

    My situation is slightly different because I’ve known the guy just under a month…. but the scenarios are nearly identical. And once I also realized I was kind of falling for the guy (pretty much right after I slept with him as well), I’m afraid it must have shown, because I suddenly acted available and eager… which in my opinion, let the guy off the hook regarding being the pursuer, and thus the new distance.

    Which, can be a good or bad thing… the right guy for you might need space at first when it starts to feel serious. Just be aware of how it makes you feel. Games aren’t good… but intentions ARE good. And also be aware of if in any way you are not being true to yourself, in order to please a guy (even a great guy). That is where things go downhill, on an internal level. Stay empowered. Sounds like you are. :)

    Anyway all I have to say is, hang tight girl. Sometimes awesome guys suck at communication when they don’t know what they want. They often have insecurities of their own. Men can be so aloof. You are right to back away and let him come to you – that being said the others are right that if he does come back to you (in a true way… by asking you out on DATES), having some new boundaries might be in order. Dating is SOOOOO confusing – and I am also in shock sometimes at how I can go so quickly from my sexy, confident self, to feeling completely insecure/pessimistic because a guy I really like is backing off a bit.

    So yeah, keep yourself busy, and I’m curious how things will pan out – keep us posted! It’s relevant to a lot of us – a lot of us go through the very same things. :)

    #363431 Reply
    Ivy

    Sweet texts keep you strung along. A real date is more meaningful.

    Texts mean nothing when not backed up with actions.

    Don’t be this man’s text entertainment and string a long,

    You said usually it flows, this isn’t. It’s not working.

    Look, I got strung along by a romantic texter, they can really get you hooked. Relationships aren’t made by text, they are made by spending quality time together. When is the last time you had a great date with this guy?

    You can hang on but you are overly invested in him. If you weren’t you’d be dating other men and NOT posting still about this guy. You care too much and that is not safe for your heart when this guy isn’t showing you that he is really interested.

    #363526 Reply
    Lylah

    So.. Read up about e tethering, it’s correct in that it’s an activity not an action. Last date was 9 days ago. Accepting now that it means very low interest level and his texts mean nothing more than him filling in time, stringing me along as a backup option. Even being away on business, he has ample time to arrange a date if he has time to text.

    Calling it quits. Thank you all to who responded, I’m sure I’ve frustrated many with my posts lol but at least I learnt a few things.

    #363529 Reply
    Lylah

    Ps Ava,

    Thanks for responding ???? I too go from confident to insecure and it’s terrible when you can see yourself doing it. Sorry that you are in a similar situation, but i guess we have to go through a ton of bad apples before finding a good one. Guess that’s what teaches you what you want and what should feel right? Best of luck ????

    #363530 Reply
    Ivy

    Lylah, You hit the nail on the head, even if traveling if he has time to text he has time to set up a date. You are too good to allow yourself to be in a holding pattern with this guy and you deserve more. Learn how to communicate assertively, practice on the next guy. Take your learning lessons. It’s all a journey.

    #363532 Reply
    Ivy

    With learning spend less time on the bad apples….
    So 2.5 months, good, it wasn’t years
    Now onto the next fish in the sea

    #363547 Reply
    Missy

    I have to say, THANK YOU! This post was most helpful. I can so relate to you! I have been dating a guy for about 5 months and it’s been so great and we share so many common interest and passions and we get along so well. It was really intense at the beginning, yet I didn’t sleep with him till after 2.5 months of dating (which was my boundary set and he totally respected it).

    The last time we slept together he mentioned that he hadn’t felt this type of connection with someone before…… Then he hasn’t slept with me since!?? He still initiates catch ups and we go out for dinner and he holds my hand and is affectionate with me in public and at home, lots cuddles on the couch etc. He stays over most Friday, Sat, Sun nights but we just cuddle.

    He becomes distant at times and it really frustrates me. I don’t push him, haven’t asked if we are exclusive or put any pressure on it. I am seriously confused if this guy is actually interested in me at all though. I feel as though perhaps he just see’s me as a ‘friend’ and hence why he still wants to hang out but not sleep with me? Or perhaps he is dating others and is getting it elsewhere? I really need some girls advise on what this is and what I should do :(

    #363550 Reply
    Lane

    Hi missy.

    If after 5 months you have no clue where you stand then you need to start the conversation to find out where his heads at. Unfortunately today men have LEARNED how to date casually where they can date you for months and even years without having any intention of committing to you. So, if he hasn’t give you any CLEAR SIGNALS then you need to clear it up.

    When your cuddling and he’s in a good mood start it out with “We’ve been seeing each other for over 5 months now and although I enjoy the time I spend with you, I’m not looking for a casual fling but something meaningful and long term and need to know where you’re at?” By letting him know what you’re looking for and opening it up as an inquiry to gauge his thoughts is the best way to approach it. If he flakes at least you know you won’t be strung along for many more months in limbo!

    For the record:

    1) Men usually KNOW if they’re falling or have fallen in love prior to the third month. If a man hasn’t committed to you after the 4th month has passed then the ODDS of him committing get slimmer as time passes. (Even though he commits he could break up if you change or decide you’re not a match)

    2) On the first date always vet where the guys heads at by asking in a general inquiry “When dating are you looking for something casual or long-term?” then LISTEN. If he says anything along the lines of “I’m not looking for a relationship” then RUN!

    3) Never ACT like a GF until you are one! Continue to date, live your life normally, don’t be too available, and ACT like a single woman who has many suitors to choose from because you do! :-)

    #363559 Reply
    Missy

    Thank you so much Lane for your advice with this one. I really appreciate it. He does talk of future in general and is quite open about some personal things with him and his family, past relationships, having kids and has even taken up one of my passions so he can do it with me. He asks about my family and seems to take an interest. He has met some of my friends yet I have not been introduced to any of his. I guess this is why I get confused, plus the fact there is nothing going on in the bedroom but cuddles and kisses. I’m a pretty cool girl and have backed off and given him space and I am ok with that and just keeping things friendly.

    I agree with you, as much as I don’t want to confront it or put myself out there, it’s probably time I stepped out of my comfort zone and just asked the question in a casual way. I don’t want any pressure on it, but I also don’t want to waste my time moving forward with it if he is still seeing others or if he is still deciding what he wants with me….I will make it much easier for him and take me out of the picture. I feel I have done exactly what I shouldn’t have and that is to act like his girlfriend without it being official. Silly me! :( This is where I went wrong! Ooops

    #363984 Reply
    Monique

    Hi Girl!

    I’m sorry but I have to say that you’re mucking this up by being too much in your own head. You have got to relax and let it flow. Guys texts typically fade off bc texting is a time-consuming and ineffective form of communication in the long term. My guy barely texts me anymore but always makes plans for dates ahead of time. Usually this is followed by my lack of texting him bc of my busy schedule. Stay busy and let him know your value system. Tell him that you do not sleep with a man outside of an exclusive committed relationship and that if he wants to continue to see you then this is how. Men actually value strength and confidence in yourself and your belief system. He will respect it. Of course, do not act dramatic or needy.. just tell him what is acceptable and what is not. Stay sweet and fun too! Don’t get too serious about it. Just value yourself and your body. Don’t compromise your self peace for a man that is not worthy. The right man will always show up and deliver. Good luck!!

    Monique

    #363992 Reply
    Ashley

    maybe you guys had sex too soon and now that he got what he wanted, he doesn’t feel the need to lay on the charm/be on his best behavior. it’s a common theme & it’s happened to me a few times. if you guys waited quite a while before you hooked up I think he would still be all lovey dovey but after a guy has sex with you, he pulls away. in the future, it’s wise to ONLY have sex after the two of you have agreed to be in a relationship. otherwise you have no “say” or expectation of what he’s going to do. no matter how fabulous a woman is it seems when the guy gets what they want after not too much investment on their part they fall back. You should just not contact him & he will come around but when he does don’t say much & treat him like a friend

    #365138 Reply
    missy

    Thank you Monique and Ashley :) I have actually been taking this advise Monique and relaxed the whole thing now. I am just acting like friends now which has made it much easier on my part. I did make him wait a bit for any bedroom action and he was a total gentleman with my boundary and respected it. It was actually 2.5 months before we were intimate. He is still making plans to see me and has taken up one of my hobbies, so just going with the flow. Still no bedroom action other than snuggling. :( He did have girls messaging his phone right when he was showing me a video but I just acted all cool about it and later simply asked him, if he had more friends that were girls than guys. He said yes he had more girl friends. So I know just consider myself to also be just another friend of his I guess. Not sure of what the differences are and perhaps he does this to all his girl friends? Not sure how to separate the girlfriend material from the just friends material. I have not confronted him at this state about being exclusive or anything. I kinda of can’t be bothered now. if he is keen, then he must show interest, otherwise I’m sure someone else will, if I allow myself to be open for other opportunities right :)

    #367475 Reply
    Lylah

    So, I have a surprising update to share :)

    I went NC with the original guy I had invested too much in and wasn’t putting any effort in. Went on a few dates, kept busy with social events etc. after a week, I got a phone call from the very same guy saying he’s missed me and can we catch up? I know most would not have, but I did and now I’m surprised and happy how things have turned out! He explained he’s been hurt from the last relationship quite badly and wanted to be sure he was making the right choice and that I’m the lady he’d like to take that leap with.

    I guess the NC was like a little shove in the right direction. He now calls regularly, initiates dates, texts the sweetest things and most importantly, in person his actions reflect his words! It’s only been three weeks since then but, now things just seem to flow naturally.. There’s no tension, no insecurities or questions and we’ve been having so much fun! This weekend he even raised the exclusivity talk :)

    In some ways I’ve still got a lot to learn about the ways of men, I know it’s still early days and I’m trying to just be patient this time around and enjoy the moments! In the meantime, I’ve still been lurking here and absorbing all the helpful tips, it’s a great way to keep grounded when something small does come up. I wanted to thank all here who give such valuable advice!

    #367540 Reply
    MDD

    I agree with Lane on this one.
    Women don’t realize that as hard as they try not to let it show, once they have all that doubt, confusion, questioning, etc. going through their head, it DOES reflect in your behavior and guys have a radar for this!
    Unless a guy has never been in a relationship or he’s basically desperate, it’s going to take him at least 6 months to figure out that he wants to be exclusive with you and here’s why- women (without realizing it) tend to be everything a guy wants for the first couple-three months. They compromise their likes; dislikes; overlook things that would normally annoy the shit out of them because of the “cute” texts; ensure that their makeup and hair is perfect… But here’s the thing, it’s hard to keep all that up for more than three months then the “real” them starts peaking through. Guys know this too so they take it slow- REALLY SLOW to see who you really are. Truth is that guys are just as afraid of whether you’re “the one” as you are, they just take a hell of a lot longer to think about it than you think it should take them. If you’re insisting on a commitment answer within the first three months, he’s likely to set one foot out the door in case he needs to run.

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