My boyfriend won't tell me how he feels about me — do we have a future?


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    Otohime

    My boyfriend and I have been together almost three years. I want to preference this by saying with are both EXTREME introverts/introspective, so we struggle a lot with communication and expressing ourselves.

    We have not said “I love you” to one another, nor how we feel or discussed the future together in any significant way. We are 33 and 32.

    This hasn’t bothered me too much. I’m low maintenance and I haven’t been in a place for a serious relationship (we aren’t casual by any means, but we aren’t like… at a marriage, living together, etc, place in our lives either).

    Lately, however, I have been thinking about the future with more earnest. I have been working on boosting a significant career. I live in an apartment, but eventually I want more. I can wait. I’m actually still figuring things out… but I want to know that there is a future and if we on the same path.

    My boyfriend doesn’t communicate well. Neither do I but I approached him today and expressed many things (as nice as possible), including my frustration at our lack of communication and how it makes me feel. He said nothing in response.

    Then I asked what does he wants in life. He said “I don’t know.” I tried to open it up to anything, where might he want to live, do for work, travel. ANYTHING. He still said he doesn’t know. Worse I asked him if he wants me in his life. Long LONG pause and then “I don’t know what you mean.” Finally he said something like… I care about you and like being with you.

    Not exactly a confident response. I feel like I’m a placeholder for him while he figures out his life. I don’t have time for that in this point in my life.

    Am I over reading this? Could this still be a communication issue? Could things change or he just never going to have a plan for his life?

    Is there any better way I can approach him and discuss this one more time? Anything specific I can say?

    I’d be heartbroken to break up with him, so not my first choice or something I take lightly.

    #804210 Reply
    Raven

    3 years of this nonsense?
    You’re not low maintenance, you’re no maintenance…

    #804212 Reply
    Otohime

    No maintenance. lol. Probably true.

    It’s how I am. I’m independent and career focused + introspective. One of the things I like about this relationship is that it’s easy. No drama. We see one another once or twice a week and that’s how it goes.

    That doesn’t mean I don’t ever want more, especially needing to know if we are going in any direction at all.

    #804214 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    I think there’s such a thing as too easy when it comes to relationships. If you never ever have conflict, or talk about what you want, or express your desires, how deep of a relationship can you really have? Conflict isn’t bad, either. Conflict doesn’t have to mean screaming or arguing or disrespectful behavior. It just means being at odds with each other & talking it out. That has to happen for a relationship to deepen.

    You’ve been seeing this guy 1-2x a week for 3 years. Do you feel your relationship has progressed and deepened in that time? Have you had to compromise & work through issues? I’m only asking because you’re saying you both struggle with communication.

    There seems to be a lack of vulnerability in your relationship too. You haven’t even told each other you love each other, in 3 years. Do you love him? Do you think he loves you? You’re saying you’ll be heartbroken if this relationship ends. Does he know that? Do you ever express deep emotion like that to each other?

    It’s healthy & normal to want this relationship to progress, especially after 3 years, but if you haven’t gone out on a limb & expressed yourself & your vulnerability in all that time, you can’t expect him to suddenly start talking about a future with you. So you probably caught him off guard. I think it’s good you brought the topic up. I think you need to think about what you feel for this guy, and what kind of future you see. And you need to tell him. It will probably take more than one conversation. But if he’s unable to reciprocate & communicate deep feeling for you & the relationship, then maybe he doesn’t want the future you want.

    #804219 Reply
    Otohime

    Thanks, Liz. You have given me a lot to think about.

    No, we’ve never had a conflict. Not even a squabble and barely a disagreement. Our relationship hasn’t involved much in three years either – or at least not in the past two years once we moved passed the dating phrase and into the more established relationship. We live different and separate lives, so we’ve never had to test boundaries. We live in separate places, different jobs, and such. The closest to compromise would be things like whether we want to go to the lake or the movies and that’s pretty easy and we generally agree on what we like to do.

    I love him and I think he loves me. When it comes to him, I don’t know if he is “in love” with me, as in sees a life with me or if I’m just someone to pass the time with. I don’t know if I see him that way either, but I’ve never felt that extreme romantic love others talk about. Intense feelings aren’t as important to me as a meaningful relationship, which is why communication has become the topic of frustration for me. We don’t talk about any of these things or very rarely. I expressed quite a lot today.

    #804220 Reply
    T from NY

    What Liz counseled was excellent. I would add – your gut is telling you something. Three years is INCREDIBLY PLENTY of time to know if you see a future with someone whether you are introvert or extrovert, career driven or lazy, male or female etc etc. Don’t fall into the faulty and unhealthy thinking of investment theory. That just because you’ve been with the same person for three years means you have to bend over backwards or twist and turn to make it work or salvage something. As humans we change and grow and the only reason people stay together long term is that despite their differing personalities or interests they share common views and goals of what they want for their future.

    This situationship (because that’s what it is because you two have never defined it in terms of love and future) may have worked for you while you established a career. But now you are desiring something more authentic and deeper – a true partner. His response to you was very troubling and I would take some time to get your head together and figure out what it is YOU want, or at least general ideas. Then sit again and tell your bf if he sees similarities in what you’re looking for. Let him know that despite your past interactions and routine you are now needing him to articulate to you where you stand. Speak of love. And be prepared if he gives you half ass, non commital or evasive answers to do right by yourself and walk away.

    I hope the best for you. However it works out you will be okay.

    #804221 Reply
    Katie

    Move on and be with a guy who can’t wait to get married with you

    #804273 Reply
    Lane

    Honestly, it sounds like he’s been more of a placeholder for you and now you’ve come to a crossroad where everything in your life is appears to be in place and now ready to settle down with a life partner.

    Listen, you’ve had three years now to sort things out and it there has been zero progression. You opened up, discussed your thoughts and feelings and he pretty much shut you down. He is not a *team player* he’s sitting on the bench with no desire to get off or the ball (discuss things with you) so you can at least, at a minimum, start working towards the goal of getting to home plate (commitment) so to speak.

    I think you know in your heart of hearts he’s not “the one.” He’s someone you spent some time with but not someone you can spend your life bet with as he’s just not interested in that sort of thing and prefers to be alone & solo, which is OK as he’s allowed to be that way if he wants/needs that.

    Like they say “you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink” and he’s not drinking what you are interested in. At this juncture it would be best for you to not waste any more words or time trying to get him to go in the direction you are ready to travel. It sounds like you could use some romance and love in your life, so go grab it—you only have one life so live it :o)

    #804274 Reply
    Raven

    Imagine yourself in 5 years, is this really your future?

    #804312 Reply
    Otohime

    Thanks for the advice, everyone. :)

    I don’t consider him to be a “placeholder” for me, at least that’s not what I went into wanting. Rather, I think three years ago, we were in similar places in our lives, but we haven’t evolved together in the way that I would like. My only question is whether he wants to evolve or wants to stay the same indefinitely.

    Because @ Raven, that’s been my quandary exactly. Five years from now, I would like to have a home, maybe kids, definitely a plan and security. I certainly DON’T want to live independent lives and I live in this small crappy apartment (I love my apartment… but getting out of here is probably top of my five-year goal).

    Right now in my life, I think I’m just wanting someone who has a goal and plan. I don’t need “now” just a hypothetical future idea. But if my BF can’t even articulate that he wants me in the future, it doesn’t sit well with me.

    I am going to try to talk with him one more time. I’ve never actually broken up with anyone before (this is only my third relationship), so this isn’t an easy thing any way I look at it.

    #804381 Reply
    Lane

    All you can do at this juncture is to put all your cards on the table. Tell him your “five-year plan” and if he’s not interested then all you can do is fold and find a hand (guy) who’s in the same phase of life as you are.

    Even if he does come onboard I do think you have a lot of obstacles to overcome as your kids need a father who can communicate, teach and be an active participant in their lives. Something to ponder.

    #804383 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    I agree with the advice given. I’ll add that my boyfriend is introverted & has a hard time expressing feelings/emotion. Not to the level that you describe you & your boyfriend to be, but he is reserved emotionally. I on the other hand am extroverted, expressive & emotionally open (to a fault sometimes!).

    We work well together because I’ve drawn him out & made him feel safe & comfortable expressing feelings; while on the flip side he’s tempered my overly reactive tendencies & helped me be a bit more grounded (as in not getting emotionally worked up over things that aren’t worth it).

    So if you’re an introverted person who struggles with communication & expression, it may be better in the long term to partner with someone who balances you out rather than someone who’s exactly like you. Just a thought. There are a lot of considerations that go into a romantic relationship, of course. But you want someone who compliments your personality. If you & your partner both have the same weakness (and being unable to communicate & express oneself in a relationship is a weakness)– it’s not good for the relationship.

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