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  • #781627 Reply
    Asayi

    So I’ve been dating my bf for 4 months now and on our 2nd date in the beginning (before the talk about what we are), he talked to me about this girl (a friend that he has known for many years now) who was always weird with him and sometimes indecent (making sexual comments, trying to flirt with him, etc) and apparently, my bf’s exes were not okay with this girl. His last girlfriend even slapped him in the car because what she saw at a dinner with his friends was too much for her (apparently, the girl spent the whole evening laughing with him, flirting and caressed his lap in front of the ex). And he said that he didn’t see anything at that time, but with a step back, he did realize that it was weird and he started to back off and he tried to tell the girl that he wasn’t comfortable. But he didn’t want to cut her off because they have the same group of friends since high school.

    Anyways. So tonight, I was on a date with him and this girl randomly called him. He didn’t take the call because he thought it would be disrespectful towards me to talk on the phone in front of me. Long story short, it turned into our first fight. I’m usually the kind of person who trusts her partner and who doesn’t control who he can talk to or can’t or who he can hang out with or not, but this girl has always been a problem in his last relationships, so I wasn’t at ease. He finally called her back and she wanted to hang out with him because she was in town. I asked him if something ever happened between them in the past and he said no, that she just gets weird sometimes and even when he tells her that her sexual jokes are indecent (sexual jokes about him btw), she becomes defensive and acts as if it’s nothing.

    I went back home upset/disappointed. He did try to call me and he followed me through a good part of my way back home to ‘fix things’, but I needed time alone. Other than asking about how I feel and begging me (literally) to fix things because ‘he cares too much about me and this relationship’, he couldn’t give me a satisfying solution and way to ‘fix it’. He said that he would talk to this girl and tell her one more time that he isn’t comfortable with her, but it’s not enough.

    Isn’t odd that he drags the same problem over and over again in all of his relationships? Bf texted me to ask to see me soon so that we can talk about it and I haven’t answered yet because I don’t even know if it’s worth it anymore.

    How would you handle this situation?

    #781630 Reply
    Dangerouse

    Jeez, honey, can’t you see this guy has women all over the place. He’s crawling with ex’s and female friends an on and on…

    He is, from what you wrote, one of those players with umpteen women on his phone 24/7.

    He’s dumb enough to attempt to date, when really, hes a doofus.

    Screw him. I’m telling you right now… if you read my advice, and still give him the time of day, then you are so bored you want his drama.

    This guy is looking for a dumbo with no class that will buy all these women on his phone.

    Hes one of these punks who has no sense of purpose or goals, just to collect and use women.

    #781631 Reply
    Asayi

    @Dangerouse I’m a bit confused by your answer honestly.. Where did I talk about other women on his phone?

    Maybe I wasn’t clear (English is not my mother tongue), but he isn’t and doesn’t talk to his exes anymore, but they did have a problem with this particular friend of him. I mentioned his exes to give a background about the kind of problems he had because of the weird indecent behavior of this girl that he has known since high school.

    The image of him being a player punk made me laugh haha he is nothing like that, but I don’t know if I should tolerate that girl in his life knowing what I wrote in my first post.

    #781635 Reply
    Stella

    You should definitely talk it out with him and advice him to stay away from that girl cuz all she’s doing is adding toxicity to your relationship. If he respects and actually loves you; then he’ll respect your feeling and will keep a distance
    :))

    #781636 Reply
    Stella

    *feelings

    #781646 Reply
    Asayi

    @Stella But once he knows that (which he does: I got upset about it and told him that I don’t tolerate ambiguous ‘friendships’ like his), what’s the next step? It’s as if he cared more about my ‘feelings’ (like begging me to ‘fix’ how I feel before I go back home) than finding useful solutions.

    I told him that he could tell me whatever he wants, but that I would only believe his actions. He did nothing so far to fix it. I haven’t answered yet, but I know that next time we see each other, if he hasn’t done a single action to fix it, I would feel like losing my time.

    Is it reasonable to expect him to clearly talk to this girl before the next time we see each other?

    #781682 Reply
    Bored no class Dumbo

    *sees something long term

    #781681 Reply
    Bored no class Dumbo

    “I got upset about it and told him that I don’t tolerate ambiguous ‘friendships’ like his, what’s the next step?”

    You said your piece, he heard it, no need to keep repeating yourself. Your next step is to take a step back and observe his actions.

    “He did nothing so far to fix it.”

    Walk away dear until he does. He probably never will unless he truly does care about you and sees something long. Cut off the feelings. Be ice cold. Be ready to let him go.

    My guess as to why he isn’t doing it is the poor (probably very stupid) girl is kept around due to his fragile ego.

    #781686 Reply
    Newbie

    Im a bit confused here. This guy finally realized this woman cant be full on in his life so he took a step back and didnt take her call. And then you got upset and it turned into a fight. I dont see what he has done wrong in this case. I guess you want the girl gone, but you are only dating for 4 months. Take a deep breath and just see how it goes

    #781690 Reply
    Asayi

    @Bored no class Dumbo By suggesting to walk away, do you mean to break up with him?

    @Newbie When he didn’t answer her phone call, I felt like he wasn’t comfortable to answer *in front of me* because he had other calls before this one and when I told him I didn’t mind him to answer, he did answer. But he didn’t answer that girl’s call.

    I accepted to meet him Friday to talk about it. Until then, I’ll pull back and think things through.

    #781701 Reply
    redcurleysue

    He knows this woman is a problem. Tell him when he finally wants to totally be free of her let you know.

    He knows how to get rid of her…trust me.

    Until then you cannot get close to a man who has a woman swarming him. That will never work for you.

    #781703 Reply
    relaxy taxi

    If it makes you feel uncomfortable (which it sounds like it is) and has become an interference it must be nipped in the bud.

    Which is more important his friendship with her or you?

    FWIW – I just blocked an ex-ltr because he briefly mentioned an intimate encounter (keep in mind I did not talk to him for several years) on the phone and I told him that is not appropriate.

    That was a week ago and he has called me 5 times since and I finally had to block him.

    Even though I’m single, because I’m a weirdo :), I didn’t like it.

    So, try to work together with your boyfriend as a team to find a solution that is acceptable to you both.

    Good-luck!

    #781708 Reply
    Anderson

    Not at all a weirdo, relaxy. Rather I admire women like you. No judgement towards those who arent, but I’m personally unattracted to women who naturally don’t prefer to shut down inappropriate attention from creeps, ex’s etc

    I knew an acquaintance who didnt respect boundaries when I was taken. Flirting, sex talk, innuendos etc So I shunned her from talking, texting to me privately. She created only mild issues in my rship which we got past, but I lost a lot of trust and respect for her.

    Now that I’m single she assumed I’d be more open to reciprocate her advances. We texted privately just this week after a year, and she wanted me to call her. Except I’m the exact same and realized I still prefer talking to her in our group chat with other people as that keeps her in check. She can be a good laugh/talk/person, but the respect I lost for her character didnt come back and might not ever

    #781728 Reply
    Asayi

    I myself stay distant from people who don’t respect my boundaries. I do it out of respect for him, but most importantly out of respect for me.

    Anyways, how do I tell him that? I’m seeing him Friday and I don’t see myself telling him what to do. I don’t want to control him, but I do know that if this girl ever randomly shows up again in any case, I’d be upset and might end the relationship. I don’t care if she’s part of their high school group friends. But I would feel really uncomfortable if she keeps calling him to try to hang out with him.

    Also, we haven’t spoken today. I guess we both needed space to think after the way it went Monday evening. I confirmed him yesterday evening that I agree to see him Friday (he suggested a time and a place). But no words since

    #781730 Reply
    Dangerouse

    So I read your original post again. I guess I just assumed he had a bunch of women on his phone, sorry. And you say hes not a player type?

    I noticed you said on the second date he mentioned her.

    Later, she hit him up while he was with you. That means they are in regular communication. If she was nothing but a long past nothing, he would have blocked her ages ago.

    Especially if a guy plans on dating and doesn’t want to be disturbed by a former girlfriend and troublemaker, he would be darn sure to keep her out of his life.

    Hes doing the opposite. Hes talking about her and returning her calls.

    Hes still majorly invested in this person. Imo.

    #781732 Reply
    Dangerouse

    Additionally, you absolutely don’t discuss any of this with him on Friday. You discuss nothing. Just let him take you on a nice date and have fun.

    If you have to have the where do we stand discussion, then you are doomed. If you actually like this fellow, then don’t spend time with him making him explain himself.

    Either hes devoted to you or not. You can tell. Don’t need to force a miserable deep conversation. That takes the fun out and sets a precedent of deep talks instead of lighthearted fun.

    You don’t want to build a relationship on a habit of suspicion and confrontation. If the boy can’t have a fun, honest, carefree relationship with you then find someone without baggage.

    #781745 Reply
    Asayi

    @Dangerouse When she called, he told me it was really random of her because it’s been a while since. I don’t know really… I know that on Halloween, he wanted to see a music group perform at a club (he asked me to go, but I couldn’t that night), so he asked his group of friends on their friends group chat and she was the only person available. By himself, he canceled his plan and didn’t go with her even though he was really excited about that music group. That was the last time he mentioned her before Monday.

    When he mentioned her, we were getting to know each others and I was curious about his friends and where he’s coming from, so he was also telling me about his other friends, but this one friend sticked into my head because he was honest and told me that he found her weird sometimes. I do agree that he should have cut her off ages ago, but what do I answer to his ‘I don’t want drama in our group of friends’ argument?

    And Friday was his idea because HE wants to talk about it. He’s like that: he can’t ignore something that makes me upset and he wants us to fix it before moving forward. He’s the kind of person who wants to fix things right away and talk talk talkkkk about it while I get more distant and tend to need space. I know he’ll be the first to bring the subject and won’t let go until he feels I’m okay.

    Anyways. I feel less angered, but I’m deeply hurt. I feel disrespected and I’m trying to find the right words to explain why.

    #781748 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    Can I ask how old you both are? You seem pretty young, since you and he are so concerned about not rocking the boat in your group of friends. “he didn’t want to cut her off because they have the same group of friends since high school”– if this woman is acting totally inappropriately and breaking up his relationships, I don’t see why he wouldn’t cut her off? It seems obvious to me, high school friend or not.

    You asked “Isn’t odd that he drags the same problem over and over again in all of his relationships?” I would say yes, definitely.

    I think you’re going to have to decide what you want to put up with. From what you describe I don’t think he will end his friendship with this woman. He’s allowed her to destroy his relationships before but he remains in contact with her.

    As for Friday, I would suggest going to see him, and see what he has to say about it. He can talk all he wants but unless he is willing to take action and distance himself from this woman, nothing will change. You can’t force him to do anything. He has to choose to do it himself.

    #781749 Reply
    Asayi

    @Liz Lemon I’m 22 and he’s 24

    I agree: I can’t force him to do anything. I think I’ll just ask him what he wants from this relationship with this girl. Monday, he said that he wants to figure out a solution that won’t create awkwardness and drama in his friends group and that will also make me comfortable. So I’ll ask him if he thought about a solution and how he’s going to apply it.

    #781788 Reply
    relaxy taxi

    @Anderson

    Thanks.

    Just trying to pay better attention to those “alarm bells”.

    #781803 Reply
    kaye

    I see this differently. You are punishing him simply because a girl he is friends with called him! It’s not like he was allowing the girl to flirt with him and caress all over his lap like he did in front of his ex. This was a simple phone call and you got into a fight about it! He didn’t take the call In front of you because he thought it would be disrespectful and you STILL get mad at him! Poor guy can’t win. He wants to talk it over but you ignore him because you “don’t even know if it’s worth it anymore”? If you care so little for that guy that a random phone call from a friend sets you off to not even want to be in a relationship with him then please let him go!!

    You can’t drag what happened in his other relationship into your relationship. Yes this girl has gotten him in trouble with other girlfriends before but you shouldn’t let that affect your relationship. Admittedly he hasn’t spoken to her in months, and you are punishing him because she calls while you two are on a date. And guess what…he can tell this girl he doesn’t want to talk to her and to never call him again. But he can’t control what she does and if she does contact him are you seriously going to end the relationship over it? That sounds incredibly immature to me.

    He canceled going out to see a music group when it was just her going and not more friends. It doesn’t sound like he is doing anything to encourage her behavior. And by the way having a man who wants to talk things over and fix things and won’t let go of it until he feels you are okay with it is an AMAZING trait in a boyfriend! Most guys want to avoid drama or hard conversations at all costs! So throwing away this relationship because some friend calls him out of the blue sounds like your issue and not his. You say he did nothing so far to fix it, but exactly what do you want him to do? Let’s say he agrees never to speak to this girl again, but the next time his friends invite him out to go to a movie, go bowling or whatever it is they do she’s there. Do you expect him to leave? Give up his entire group of friends because of one person?

    I think you are acting childish, jealous, and insecure. Clearly if he wanted to be with this girl he could, but he chose you. And you are bound and determined to let her win because if she knows she gets under your skin and can cause issues with your relationship you are giving her way too much power. And you don’t think if he does tell her he can’t talk to her or hang out with her anymore and she ask why he’s not going to say it’s because of you? If you want him to set boundaries then you need to decide what will work. You can’t tell him he can’t have friends. But you can tell him this girl’s actions are inappropriate with him especially when he is in a relationship and you don’t want them to be alone together and you expect him to limit his interactions with her. But trying to control him and what he does will only backfire on you. And make you look like the jealous, insecure girlfriend who doesn’t trust her boyfriend.

    #781814 Reply
    relaxy taxi

    @Asayi

    Just going to share a personal story:

    There’s an ex-boyfriend from my twenties that I talk to periodically.

    He lost his mother at a young age and I know certain holidays and occasions are difficult. He likes to confide in me and also cares about my well-being.

    But, he tried to interfere once in a budding relationship (an ex-fiance), which I informed him was not cool.

    So, you and your boyfriend can keep working together to find a solution, but I think the onus leans more towards your boyfriend to ultimately manage.

    #781833 Reply
    Anderson

    The solutions are actually endless and not the problem here. Seems to me he isnt ready or old enough for such exclusivity and compromises at 22.

    Sure not every guy is the same. But myself at 23 I had a 6 month summer love yet was openly talking/flirting with 3 other female “friends.” Nothing physical. I think if I was asked to stop talking or flirting with them, I may have struggled to because I didnt completely want to. That is, if I was even capable or mature enough to prioritize the rship, even if it had been serious, over those “funships” back then. And mind you I wasn’t a total scumbag, but a relatively polite/considerate person. Not to mention, back then my ego and self esteem needed and thrived on attention from women. Fast forward today and everything’s different

    So I feel it’s not so much about how to, or potential awkwardness in the group. But whether he wholeheartedly wants to. Being 22 and letting go or shutting down a questionable long term friend who strokes his ego like that? He has my respect if he achieves appropriate boundaries with her. I’ve known guys who were 28-33 and weren’t able to, and inevitably it poisoned some of their rships. But hey hopefully I’m wrong, and he’s an exception to the norm, and it works out for y’all. Good luck

    #781942 Reply
    Raven

    Update please…

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