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  • #441200 Reply
    Laur

    thank you all so much. Jenny, I know you are the usual voice of reason and very driven by logic, and I am so down with that, but I stated my stats above and in my 26 years I have learned what is healthy and natural for me. I have been everywhere in between 75 and 120 pounds. 12 years ago my relationship with food was unhealthy, and ironically, later in high school I had an obsession with this girl named Mari who was super curvy, even a bit on the chubby side. I wanted to be her. It looked cute, feminine, sexy, etc. I’ve been all over the map with this stuff and my weight always followed suit. Finally, in the past 6 years, I settled on a healthy, natural, pretty weight that did not touch any extremes. So this guy really hit me where it hurts. Because Mari made me realize that I WILL NEVER BE HER. I can get fat, and I do whatever I want, I can manipulate it with food, clothing, exercise, self-tanner, etc etc etc etc! But it is a losing battle. Because all it did was distract me from the goal of loving what I was naturally given: a tight, small, body that many women (espcially many post-pregnancy women) would kill for. I’m trying really hard to hold onto that. For a man to crave otherwise feels like a dull knife.

    #441205 Reply
    Lady T

    Hi Laur,

    I’ve had the same issues all my life. I’m 4’11” (and 3/4″) – that extra 3/4″ is important to short people like me ;) before I had my daughter, I was 98 lbs and always wished I could be curvier. I always felt like my “athletic” build was too boyish. My metabolism was my worst enemy. I always wanted what I couldn’t have. And if I gained weight, it was in the wrong areas and always totally skipped my chest!! I am very happy with my body now, 100%!! You deserve a man that loves you and your body. We have enough to deal with when it comes to our body image. You should never have to feel like you need to please anyone else when it comes to your body. Especially when you’re perfectly happy with it. xo

    P.S. My boyfriend just said “sounds like HE’S got some issues”

    #441223 Reply
    Jenny

    I see. Well again, I was just asking. I analyze endlessly and my primary focus in communication and interacting is intent. If someone’s intent is ill-willed or malicious, I disregard it almost immediately and am 99.9% unaffected by it. If it’s coming from a genuine place of concern or care then I’ll at the very least consider if there’s any truth or self-denial on my end to what’s being said. It sounds like you’ve thought it through and have concluded that you don’t agree so I think just add that to the list of ‘Why it’s NEVER gonna work with us- *insert boy’s name* Lol. TBH from my perspective his intent is malicious because there’s no way you could benefit from such statements and anyone who truly loves you is going to make every effort NOT to hurt you so carelessly *but still will at times… just sayin’. But their INTENTIONS will be not to do so, it just happens. I’m sorry you struggled with body issues it’s unfortunate but happy to hear you’ve worked through and overcome said issues. Bottom line: If you’re healthy, he can take it or leave it. Your body is yours just as every other woman’s is her own and your ideal mate will think you’re pure perfection “flaws” and all and you should too. My sweet as pie but completely vain ex once said to me “There’s such thing as skinny fat”… My response “Wait, so is that a yes or a no to pizza for dinner? *insert oblivious smile*” Bahahaha. Basically, I really don’t care what your opinions are in reference to my body… I like it and I love pizza sooooo if you don’t like it, there’s the door. ;) Lol

    #441251 Reply
    AM

    L, you make a great point “he needs to realize what he wants and until then he should leave you alone”. Story of my life.
    Laur, I’m so sorry this happened to you but you will bounce back. No man can ever make you feel as accomplished as being a mother anyway :)
    Gosh, right now I’m just happy I’m single… jeez

    #441258 Reply
    redcurleysue

    You know if this were not so serious I would be laughing. But come on now…he went blind when he met you and now he can see? Pleeeease.

    Your body and looks have nothing to do with this…nothing at all. That is a smoke screen.

    And is it any mistake he is picking on things you cannot change? The answer to that is no.

    It is like saying, “Ahhhhh…you see my dear I always wanted a green eyed girl…yes, you could wear contacts but then again what will we do about your height? I wanted someone 6 ft tall…and what about your belly button being too small?….”

    He is scared and pulling out. Probably you have a real nut job on your hands…I bet a sociopath…they are excellent actors and can even cry on cue. Know this, he will continue this behavior probably for the rest of his life…and it has nothing to do with you…nothing at all.

    My dear, you dodged a huge bullet here…had this gone further you might have married this guy..let’s think about having someone like this long term. Scary isn’t it?

    And these people are good at what they do to the unsuspecting…and as the years go by they get better at it…imagine if you had met him 5 years from now…my blood runs cold.

    Please take a step back and see this is his problem…his brain…his disconnect from reality…I know it is hard since you were emotionally involved but if you can just step back you will see what we see…he has deep problems.

    Everyone has insecurities and this guy sees those with a depth and skill few can match…that is his “gift” (weapon) that he uses to damage relationships beyond repair. Sick I know but true.

    I am so sorry this happened to you and the several young women who had the misfortune to cross his path in the past…and the women who will meet him in the future. There should be a flashing warning sign on him. “Warning, Warning, Danger, Danger”

    So, wrapping this up. Your looks are just fine. Your charming self is just fine. You met a deeply troubled man unfortunately…and that is all. I am really sorry…dreadfully.

    Please, please do not let this crazy guy affect your future relationships…the good news is that men like him are rare (thank God).

    #441267 Reply
    Rose

    I’m really, really sorry for what this man said to you. He’s really cruel.

    I was in a similar situation and he was an amazing guy until he dropped it… I was not his type, he wanted a blond, blue eyed, skinny girl, lol

    I was all the opposite and still married him… Long story short, he always cheated on me and we ended divorcing because he’s a controlling, abusive man.

    They indeed have a problem and are never happy, no matter what we do.

    You want a man that can’t have enough of you as you are, that will adore you and love your eyes, your skin, every little detail about you, not someone that loves you but will always try to look for his dream woman.

    #441290 Reply
    Sakura

    Wow, I was speechless for a moment. Too painful to read this.

    This guy you’re talking about is too young and immature. And right from the start he does seem to prefer curvy girls (you mentioned you met him after your pregnancy or in maternity mode).So yes, he was attracted to you and came on too strong. But then when you got back to your normal weight he seemed to go back to his “usual” preference. I’d be reeling myself if the man I love told me the same thing—because blond, slim and blue-eyed is the standard of beauty from this side of the world—and I’m the complete opposite!

    You shouldn’t let this get to you, I mean it shouldn’t affect your self-esteem or confidence—- like what I said he’s too young. So you’re not his type. So what? It saved you from a lot of hurt—-if you stuck together for longer and you found out too late, then he would have cheated with a lot of other dark and curvy girls and it would be more painful for you.

    Trust that you’re not to blame for any of this. And from this point, if he asks you to come back for some reason, don’t give him a chance. He is far too shallow and superficial to deserve it.

    #441292 Reply
    Vickie

    Dear Laur,

    First of all, you are going through a shock and still be able to write a clear, well written post, I admire you. It shows that you are a more than perfect woman, you have a strong head on your shoulder. I believe that men and men will bend over their backs to be with you.
    Your story gives me the impression that this man is an actor. Geez, I don’t believe in men who cry too easily. In your story, he cried a few times, which meant he is sssoooooo FAKE.
    One thing I heard from a male friend and I want to share with you. He got hard every time he saw you did not prove that he was in love with you. Men got hard with hookers too. He just had His men’s needs and he was attracted to you for sure. The lost of attraction because of your weight is just a stupid excuse. You did the right thing, this man DOES NOT deserve you.
    HUGS>>>>>>>>

    #441308 Reply
    Laur

    Vickie, thank you for the sweet compliment, and thank you for all the love and general (complete) consensus that this guy is pretty much a (really honest–yay!) jerk. I have so much to update on this (will do in the morning) as well as the funniest/saddest story that all makes sense in retrospect now….it really is like a movie, sadly

    #441405 Reply
    Laur

    I am so heartbroken, it’s like it only gets worse. The things he said to me in our conversation last night only made it worse. The pain setting in and firming up makes it worse. My only goal right now is to better myself and avoid the victim mentality. To stay on the high road. To continue coming from a place of love and growth and refuse to follow this man into the depths of shallowness and insecurity. I am just in so much pain. He put me up so high, so convincingly, before knocking me all the way down

    #441406 Reply
    Laur

    Ironically, with that being said, I feel like the only thing stopping me from bettering myself is the new knowledge that he never really thought me to be the queen he said he did. Or he at least, at the end of the day, doesn’t want me. Maybe I was deriving more motivation from his love and acceptance then I thought. After all, he looks freaking incredible on paper and is physically he is drop-dead gorgeous. But we already know he took a shovel to the hard, frozen ground where I buried my insecurities! Guess I didn’t bury them deep enough. It seemed to be working pretty well before.

    #441407 Reply
    Laur

    Redcurleysue, thank you again for the wisdom. Your post grabs at me inside because so many of the things you said ring SO painfully true and actually are things I already said to him 2 days ago–the disconnect from reality, the fear (he is taking it to the GRAVE that this is ALL simply due to him “being scared of love and bailing”–he said that multiple times)………yet feeling I am fine the way I am feels hard, not because I can’t handle rejection, but because I really thought that if I couldn’t make it work with HIM, then I would be alone forever. I thought if HE rejected me then I was doomed, because he was so in love with me, so perfect for me, and the most impressive man I’d ever “caught”. It’s impossible for me not to do this thing that I NEVER normally do: rack my brain for what I did or didn’t do. Comb myself for flaws and feel like no man will ever actually want to marry me. Because there is something inherently undesirable about me. There very well could be at this point. That’s a real possibility now

    #441418 Reply
    Newbie

    I’m totally with red curley sue. I met sort of a similar guy, who wants to love, who wants to share, but just cant. For all sorts of reaons and excuses. My bet at first the ldr felt save with him and would prevent him to commit, but he got in way over his head. He went into panick flight mode and found some random reason. You can tell by the comments his family members made about you. They saw him grow with you, a sign that they considered him immature and were happy he finally stepped up. But he fell back.

    I’m sure he will backpaddle this, but i advice you strongly to block him and delete him. Appreciate the time you spend with him and move on with your life. You will get it back together. And yeah i’m also surprised he could keep his act up for this long. Stay with the high road girl:-) cheers and love

    #441488 Reply
    Laur

    That moment when you go online, share a few details of your scenario with complete strangers and they nail it on the head……..is now….and it’s powerful, and comforting (I think). Newbie, a few weeks ago he actually told me what you just did. Back in May on his last visit he started explaining these fears and said “space is really important so I appreciate the distance” and all sorts of things like that, and by the time he was leaving he was going into backtracking mode again and said “I think we just need to accept the distance”. It’s like he wants me to be a vacation. I’m a love vacation. An isolated love shower that he needs to re-invigorate himself every few months.

    It’s the same as every guy I’ve ever dated. They love me and adore me……for all the wrong reasons. Completely and totally self-serving.

    #441496 Reply
    Laur

    And about the funny story from before, it’s not really a story and it doesn’t matter now because I am done with this prick, but he told me his dad was the most similar to him and he was that one close person with whom he wanted to talk this over. Ok. So what that means is he’s going to sit down with his dad and say, “Look, I’m really in love with this girl, but I just can’t shut off my left nut” (he also told me this and said that monogamy goes against his male biology. I told him that breast implants go against biology too). He is going to have this discussion with his dad about weighing one’s options in love, about settling down, about finding your future wife and dealing with sexual and emotional committment. Basically all about growing the f**k up and learning to value a woman with serious wife potential. So, since his dad is (was) pretty much the new decision-maker in all this, being the chosen one to give him such needed advice, shall we look a bit into HIS DAD’S love life?

    Just a few days ago I was with his family for substatnial amounts of time and met his dad, his step-mom, and his sister.

    His dad is on his second marriage.
    His new wife is younger, hotter, and taller than him.
    SHE RECENTLY WAS FORCED TO REMOVE HER BREAST IMPLANTS because they were giving her health problems (a crushingly devastating piece of news that my man delivered to me solemnly, which makes sense in retrospect)
    His sister got fed up with being on vacation with this new woman and, in front of me, went on a rant about how her father has messed up taste in women and only chose his new wife because he is “infatuated” with her (the sister is actually a sweet, genuine, wise, articulate girl). She also expressed concern over the fact that they are trying (and failing) for a baby and how messed up it is that her dad (who she portrayed as “the guy who takes hits of weed on the beach”, which he was) is so uncertain and careless about such a huge decision.

    In other words, his father is pushing 60 and, after 2 marriages and a handful of children conceived, still has no idea how to love like an adult.

    #441525 Reply
    Ashley

    I agree with Vickie the crying a bunch of times struck me as a HUGE red flag like he is a lunatic and/or actor. No emotionally balanced man cries a bunch. I think this man made you feel good about yourself & now that it’s getting taken away you feel like crap which is understandable but like I said before I’ve been in an almost identical relationship & pretty soon the very thought of him will repulse you & you won’t believe you wasted a second of time on this guy. All this weird emotional stuff that he did was abnormal.. healthy guys don’t cry a bunch have all these “breakthroughs” when you really think about a strong stable man, is that what you think of? he sounds like a total sociopath lunatic

    #441526 Reply
    Ashley

    my ex who is similar to yours, he too got it from his father.. his father was a cold jerk who had been married 3 times.. he said he divorced his mother because she actually was her own person & he was looking for a “slave” his exact word. his father is now old & alone (I wonder why) and my ex was all roses & butterflies at first to get me hooked then his true colors showed he tried to break me down so I’d be dependent on him, only wanted to marry me because he thought he could break my confidence & I’d be a “slave” to him lol these guys are SICK. as time goes on you will see so many red flags you missed & you will remember more & more & you’ll be SO happy you dodged this bullet!

    #441531 Reply
    Laur

    Ah cool ok…unfortunately that is sounding like extremely wise and accurate advice :-( thanks Ashley

    #441546 Reply
    jesigirl

    Trust me when I say this laur…you don’t want to get implants for a man. I made that mistake and now we’re not even together anymore and im stuck with these balls on my chest that make it difficult to do things I used to love. They hurt when I run and im an avid runner! Recently II found out how much it hurts diving into the pool. It sucks. The worst part is that I dont feel like the real me anymore

    #441655 Reply
    Miss_Aspiring

    Oh, Laur – I’m similar to you in several ways. I’m also 26 and petite (5’3″, 110 lbs.), with a small frame, wide hips and small breasts. It is a very desirable body type. I know you know this! :)

    You’ve already gotten your answer from all of these supportive posts – and I am also sorry you went through this. It sounds truly awful. But please, don’t wrap your self esteem up in what any guy thinks of you! Your sense of self worth should come entirely from within, and no man should ever do anything to tear that down. No man who’s worth your time would ever try that.

    What you need right now is space. Please, if you haven’t already, ask him to NOT CONTACT YOU AT ALL for the next 30 days. You need time for yourself. You need time to get distance and perspective, without being upset by his texts or calls, however well-meaning he thinks they are. Don’t worry about what he wants right now. Worry about your own well-being (and your child, of course!).

    Don’t many any decisions about the future of this relationship without taking some serious time to reflect – without any interruptions from him. Wishing you all the best.

    #441710 Reply
    Newbie

    Hi laur,
    You sound like a clever woman who has kept her sense of humour, so i’m sure you will be fine. Don’t blame yourself for getting fooled by this love talker. You have to meet one once, to recognize the style and underlying reasons for such a guy to come on so strong that you just cant resist. I learned a lot from my former guy, and since i’m pretty normal myself when it comes to attachment and commitment, i just never knew these guys are outthere: completely confused and closed up. I will never fall for the same tricks again. And i do agree with you and Ashley; it runs in the family.

    #441931 Reply
    Laur

    ***the apology I got from him today*** (still don’t trust him and still not making any moves whatsoever but it was worth a post)

    Laura, my erratic behavior the past few days was fueled by the most profound fear I’ve ever experienced. It was the fear of the unknown coupled with the complete overhaul of my lifelong beliefs being presented to me in the most immediate, impending way possible. My love for you was clouded by the sheer disbelief that something like this – the love that I have for you and Max and it’s potential for evolution and growth – could be real, and I reverted back to infantile irrationality like I never thought I was capable of or susceptible to. I’ve never EVER experienced or even thought about love like this and I can only equate it to a baby taking his first steps. Approaching something as massive as the potential of this relationship – one capable of deepening, expanding, and multiplying my understanding and execution of spreading and experiencing happiness – made me crumble in the most humiliating, disappointing, and disrespectful way. All for the sake of safety.

    I don’t trust myself right now. I have insecurity issues and ego baggage that I need to confront and process. But after talking to my sister and having a third party invalidate my batshit, self-loathing, nonsensical “ideals” I have some sense of clarity and at least a scope of where I need to go to deal with things. I was lying to myself and to you about what I needed in a woman just to escape the words my heart naively but honestly and truly spoke to you about lifelong, evolving love with you and Max.

    I love you, Laura. I love your energy, I love your heart, and I love your beautiful imperfections. I love your son, I love his trucks, and I love his mind. If you can ever see yourself regaining trust for me then I’m willing to try EVERYTHING in my power to earn it. I’m going to lay out every possible scenario of what could happen between you and me and devote all my energy to experiencing them to confront my fear. I’m through making promises, but I am going to examine every possibility with the scrutiny you deserve and if I’m truly the man that you thought I was then I’ll be brave enough to accept the risk.

    Apologies wouldn’t make up for the evil things I said and did the past few days. All I can do is try to become a better version of myself than you’ve ever imagined and if we’re meant to be together then I’ll share my soul with yours. My actions over the coming months will show you my remorse and love and I truly hope we’re right for each other and that I really do deserve you.

    #441932 Reply
    Matty

    Honestly, I’m not sure who wrote that apology but it sounds heartfelt and thoroughly thought out.

    #441934 Reply
    Laur

    Thanks Matty, I agree. He wrote it, I got it from him in a text today. He is very smart, articulate, self-aware and a great writer and student. So yes it’s obvious to me he wrote it. It sounds just like him and even though he’s not forgiven, he sounds like he is slowly regaining his sanity so good for him

    #441938 Reply
    pamela

    Sorry, but I am just shaking my head on this one.. nothing but pretentious Bull crap. This guy is dangerously cunning!!!

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