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  • #408182 Reply
    Numb

    No, I wanted to meet in person to end things so that I could have closure. Texting is very impersonal. Maybe I would take an apology, a claim that he has a sexual addiction or something that would make me not feel as bad as I do now. But, i am not begging him to meet me. When i asked last, that was the last time.

    #408187 Reply
    Numb

    I didnt tell him what i wanted to meet about, only that it was something important

    #408190 Reply
    Numb

    Does it matter any that his friend that told me this is a fiend for cocaine powder? I am grasping for straws but I cant keep,feeling like this

    #408191 Reply
    Lane

    Hi Numb.

    This man doesn’t want a relationship with you or he would be the one begging to talk to you! Thankfully I’ve only come across this a couple times but the first was when I found out my fiance had cheated on me (we were in an LDR at the time) and he kept calling but I couldn’t talk to him because I was so angry with him at the time that avoiding him was the best thing for me to do at the time. He even sent cards and wrote letters begging me to call him, that he loved me and it took me a couple weeks before I could finally talk to him but it was to ‘break up’ with him, which I did.

    Same thing when I found out my BF was married! He kept it a secret from me and although a couple of his friends mentioned they thought he was married, he denied it and I couldn’t find any evidence (I looked). When I found out he was when his WIFE called and I happened to be the one to pick up the phone (in the military stationed overseas at the time) I was PISSED and couldn’t speak to him. He was following me around like a wounded puppy begging me to give him the opportunity to speak but I couldn’t and needed some time to process what I learned. He explained it was stupid thing he did after only knowing her for 3 weeks and didn’t love her and was going to divorce her when he got back to the states. I actually took him back for a couple weeks but at that point I realized I couldn’t trust him so broke up with him (met my husband after him).

    What I’m trying to say is that a man who really loves you will plead for you to come back and this man is doing no such thing, in fact, he’s doing the opposite and trying to avoid this conversation. He KNOWS you love him but he’s not IN LOVE with you, he loves you like a FRIEND and if you can’t accept the friendship form of love then he’ll keep his distance. You need to step way back, take some time to get your emotions and feelings under control and wait until he’s ready to reach out and talk. When he does do not get into a heavy convo. with him, just listen to what he has to say—don’t ask if he’s your BF or if he’s exclusive or if he’s in love with you because he will dodge those questions and/or shut down if he feels its getting too heavy….he will freely TELL YOU if that’s the case.

    #408194 Reply
    Numb

    I will not ask any heavy questions like that. I shouldn’t have to ask someone that already promised an exclusive situation if he is my boyfriend at all. When he kept asking me to text it, i more or less told him it had to be in person. I wasnt really begging but rejecting him when he asked me to text it.

    More so what i wanted at that point was to feel like i mattered enough to talk in person about ending. Ive accepted that if he wanted to talk to me, he would have called Or set something up. This acceptance doesnt help with the pain though

    #408307 Reply
    fairycake

    There are no black and white solutions here, Andrea and No Sugar. Many couples not only survive cheating they can grow and become a new and better couple than before. Programs such as Text Your Ex Back would not exist if there were no success stories. What will it really hurt Numb if she sits back, lets him chase, guards her heart and sees what happens? The situation looks a little grim but from those ashes can come a new fire. The key here is how Numb conducts herself. It is all too easy to tell a woman to write a man off and ignore all his good qualities – it is as easy as it is to believe a pack of lies. The constant here is you – how you react and set boundaries. For all the women moralizing on these forums ask yourselves – how perfect am I – how would I be seen through the eyes of another? This man has helped Numb when she was suicidal, returned her happy spirit and given her something he cannot take away belief in herself. Some men would have run a mile and freaked out. He knows they will run into each other because of the godchild and he is aware that women will do anything to get rid of competition. Until the full story is known, he is innocent until proven guilty … we can give Numb the dignity of allowing her to wait and see. This situation is painful enough without pressuring her to be an all or nothing type of woman. Stay calm Numb and write down ways to handle this. Please read some of the programs I mentioned or online info and keep your temper under control until he approaches you.

    #408312 Reply
    fairycake

    Did I just read he’s a coke addict? I know it was some girl that told you so beware that may be another lie but … a coke addict can only love coke. Nothing is more important and it will make him into a different man but surely you see him enough to know if he has an addiction? Try to approach the situation in a way that invites him to open up. You say he asked for exclusivity long ago and it’s been almost a year together – I would let him know that you are looking for a relationship that is growing, one where you both share your dreams and make a life together. Otherwise recent events have caused you concern that he seems to have some wild double or triple life according to his vast collection of friends. Try to smile and be light about it, he will be more likely to confess if he feels you just want to know the truth but won’t strangle him on the spot

    #408315 Reply
    Stefanie

    Fairycake… Text Your Ex back and other programmes exist because they make the author MONEY. Sometimes the methods work and sometimes they don’t.

    You’re interesting. Sometimes you give great advice and sometimes it’s really hard to understand where you’re coming from.

    I disagree with you 100% on this one. He should have been to see her like a shot when he heard about this. An innocent person doesn’t go silent, they vigorously assert their innocence. Also, he wouldn’t be telling her to just text what she wanted to say.

    I respectfully suggest that you are doing Numb a disservice by giving her false hope. I don’t want to start a war with you or personally criticize you and I hope you won’t take it that way. There is room for differing opinions here and I respect your right to comment freely.

    And I can’t speak for everyone, but if I’m replying I’m not “moralizing.” The word implies judgment. I don’t come at it from that perspective. I’m calling it like I see it, wanting to help another woman get through something confusing or difficult and grow.

    #408316 Reply
    Numb

    No no no. The friend, the girl is the coke addict.

    #408317 Reply
    Numb

    I maybe trying to give myself hope but he was on his way to work when he asked me to text it. (If he were being truthful) He couldnt come right over at that moment

    #408319 Reply
    fairycake

    Stefanie I am not upset with what you have said at all. I know I seem a little contradictory here – I’ve made mistakes with charmers too lol. I just have a feeling there is more to it and he is a semi weasel that may come good with some tough handling – I just know some very odd people that have turned their lives around. My theory is she may be strung along for another day or two but at least try and get info out of him to help work on change or harden her heart. The not knowing is a killer for her. If the girl is a coke addict I’d be questioning why he wants these friends and is he trying to relive his party days – is he young or possible early mid-life crisis?

    #408323 Reply
    Stefanie

    Thanks FC.

    I see your point and there is truth to it… but the odds are highly against it IMO. Risk/reward ratio not enough in my book.

    #408324 Reply
    fairycake

    I’ll add my advice may be coloured by personal experience here – I just know how it is when someone helps you out of depression – it isn’t an easy task and requires a lot of love and perseverance to keep going. I feel he has a lot of love for her but maybe has started to take advantage of her trusting nature. Playing it cool for a while and acting like a prize can’t hurt. Some men save a woman and love it when she becomes her true confident self. Then the woman feels safe and starts to slide back into being too agreeable and soft – a balance may have been tipped here and he is feeling itchy feet

    #408325 Reply
    Stefanie

    Numb, doesn’t matter where he was going. He should have gotten on the phone and spoken to you at the earliest convenience and discussed it or made plans to meet up with you ASAP. If what FC resonates with you then go with it, maybe the rest of us are wrong. Only you know for sure.

    #408326 Reply
    fairycake

    You’re likely right Stefanie. It is a sad situation and he doesn’t seem unintelligent. It seems a shame to throw out the baby with the bathwater when it may just require some tough love.

    #408327 Reply
    Stefanie

    FC I appreciate that we can disagree without you going ballistic or getting abusive.

    #408328 Reply
    Numb

    He slips into party days a little

    #408330 Reply
    Numb

    I agree that he should have called or tried to meet me asap. But, he did tell me to not worry about it after tellin me that i was playing games.

    But when it comes to my comments, I am trying to see out of foggy glasses. I just want this pain gone

    #408332 Reply
    fairycake

    Thanks Stefanie – I am aware I can sometimes seem … overly intense :) I am working on that since I have sworn off my going ballistic days :) I can be too passionate and naturally I love the party guys and have been burned. I have also had many successes so I try to weigh up the pros and cons before I write a man off.

    Numb – if he slips into party days a little I feel he has slipped into coke as well … no man has coke head friends unless he is open to the idea just a little. I think this new info changes things a lot. If he starts to pursue then you can bring up all your concerns. If he is only in the early days of using he can get into out patient rehab and you have a slight chance. Read up on enabling and addict behaviour. You may be a very good girl and a lamb to the wolves here … be very careful

    #408336 Reply
    Stefanie

    If you are in pain, it is because you are choosing to interpret an event in a way that causes you pain. You are the source of the pain, not the event. Good news – that means you can change it. Now.

    OK. The facts are you got contact from another woman on your BF’s phone. He has not spoken to you or seen you (yet) so you do not have an explanation from him about what happened. He asked you to text him about what it was and you did not do that and he has not responded. Right? If I’m wrong then just restate the facts for yourself the right way. The point is, state the facts.

    Then… state the meaning you are giving this that hurts you. “He doesn’t love me” for example. “I’ve lost him forever”, etc. Then see if can come up half a dozen other meanings that don’t have anything to do with you. He’s not ready to be in a relationship. Whatever.

    When you back off and get perspective it lessens the pain.

    I hope that helps somewhat.

    #408345 Reply
    Numb

    Ok here are the facts:

    A woman called me and stated that she is engaged to my boyfriend. She called from his phone and said he was in bed sleep. After that call I felt betrayed and that he was living a double life. I asked his friend that is a coke addict who that woman was and she said its one o the women he is sleeping with and that he had a baby on the way. That left me feeling like i had been living a lie, that i am boring, that i am among a pool of women and am not even high on the list, that he stopped wanting me!

    When i spoke to my boyfriend i only asked him about the woman on the phone. He admitted that she is a friend he knew since he was a kid and that he hung out with her the evening before as a friend. He forgot his phone and didnt return to get it until after work. He said that her playing on his phone wad childish and that he ended their friendship over what she did. I felt ok.

    I slept on how to ask him about what his frfriend had said. I wanted to ask in person to see his reactions. The next morning i left him a set of time periods to see when he could meet. I didnt see his reply until the next day in which he asked what was the news. That is when we went back and forth with the lets meet, just text it thing. When he said i was playing games, i assumed his friend must have told him what she said and that he wasnt meeting me because of it. I think it confirmed that what she said is true. This left me feeling that something about me was unable to make him happy. I feel disgarded like i cant please a man.

    #408348 Reply
    Numb

    I felt like his prize but lower now

    #408350 Reply
    Stefanie

    Whoooooaaaaaa. This is NOT any reflection on YOU!! Whatever he has or hasn’t done, his behavior only comments on him not you. You are taking this way, way too hard and too personally.

    Also you are drawing a lot of conclusions and making a lot of assumptions. You don’t really know anything right now. But in the absence of info from another person, you can decide to suspend all judgment and just leave it and continue with your life. So many times in life we don’t get answers or information we want and think we need. Thing is, we don’t need it. That’s only our interpretation, and that’s what makes us miserable.

    #408351 Reply
    Stefanie

    Your self esteem MUST rest on you and only you always, not how others treat you or speak to you!!!

    #408357 Reply
    fairycake

    oh yes Numb – I totally agree with Stefanie – I know you feel devastated but you are fantastic, more than enough and a wonderful woman. Remember how happy he was when you felt confident? How good you felt knowing you were a happy, worthwhile woman? You have always been that woman – interpreting other people’s actions as a sign of you not being a prize is just wrong. You feel hurt and insulted so you want to cry and think that if I was so amazing none of this would have happened. It isn’t true. We can’t know what he is really like and i bet you are wondering who he really si too right now but at the end of the day it is not that you weren’t a prize. Some personality types and possible addictions can make a man act in ways that are near insane or abusive – if such a man hits a child – is the child not good enough? No – get your head clear, be calm, believe in you and that is what will give you the best result regardless of anything that he is doing.

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