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  • #581457
    Meemee

    Sherri – your posting gave me lots of thoughts….

    I am NOT looking to get married again, and I dont want my boys (10 and 12) to have to live by another man’s rule… I am sure there are tons of people out there believe in 2nd marriage with kids involved… I dont and I am not saying I am right… I am saying it is my decision to keep men out of my kids’ life…So, no marriage, no move it, that left me with not much to work with….

    I guess what I am looking for is a committed/exclusive relationship with limited together time but strong emotional connection… Not sure if there is such thing on this planet….Lol

    With my current guy, I got the exclusive part, not the committed part, I got the limited together time (every other weekend when we both dont have kids, and some other time when we are both free), not the strong connection part…. So I got 50% of what i am looking for…

    I am going to let time tell… Either I lose my interest in him (which is clearly underway that I can notice), or we “fall in” a relationship over time, because we both can’t find someone else that fit us better….

    What I need to change going forward is to further reduce initiating, and just not pay much attention at all…. and see what happens next….

    When I was at Cancun last week, sitting on the beach in this resort on the long side of Cancun 7, I was literally asking myself why do I need a guy when life is so wonderful already?? In 3 weeks, I am taking my boys to Tahoe for one week’s ski…. So life is beautiful without him…. That is all i can say….

    #581462
    Candace

    I don’t know where you get this concept that kids would live under ‘another man’s rule’
    There are plenty of very healthy step family’s. kids need both male and female role models. And seeing Eric mom in a healthy relationship helps to model for both boys and girls what to expect and how to set the bar.

    Your sense of self and kids is so off. Vacationing in Cancun isn’t teaching you kids anything but materialism. The greatest gift you can give them is the gift of understanding how people relate. Boys and girls who do best, come from parents and step parents who model this behavior,

    Lane is a perfect example on here of someone who had a strong male model as dad in her life. There are other women here who say the same.

    Sheltering your kids from relationships isn’t helping them. They will end up being a mess like you are.

    #581465
    Meemee

    Well, at the very minimum, I don’t call someone that I absolutely dont know about “a mess”…. So I can’t be that bad….

    #581472
    C

    Meemee… seems like you just got divorced. I have been divorced for two year now. In the beginning that’s exactly how I visioned. I don’t get any free time as my kids are with me 100 percent. Their dad doesn’t have any interest in the kids. That breaks my heart and I thought about it, which boy doesn’t want a male figure in his life? My son was not doing that great in school but this year he got a male teacher and he is on top of everything. Mother can provide a lot of things but can’t provide everything. I met this guy who had a terrible dad, he became rebellious and started getting off track in his youth. He told me his story how his mom got divorced and re-married and his step dad made his life. He sent him to university, set up a business for him and now with his step dad’s help he is a successful businessman and owns a million dollar house. He goes to me I wouldn’t have done this if I didn’t have my step dad in my life. I wouldve been in jail or probably a homeless man. So thinking that why bring man in my kids life is not right. Not all men are bad. There are some very good men out there who can love you and love your kids as their own.

    Regarding this man, I am going to tell you right now he is not into you. I have done this to one guy before I met the man I am dating now. Sending snaps of my kids making him apart of what I am doing but I lost my intereest in him and didn’t give him any time. I feel bad that I was stringing him along but I was in a process of making a decision about the guy I am dating. Do yourself a favor walk away. If he comes after you he is yours if he doesn’t you know where you stand

    #581477
    Hayden

    This …

    “I guess what I am looking for is a committed/exclusive relationship with limited together time but strong emotional connection”

    “With my current guy, I got the exclusive part, not the committed part”

    Um, shouldn’t this be the end of the chapter then for you two? It’s plain as day. Without the commitment you are just biding your time with one another so that either party can leave the picture on a whim. That’s setting yourself up for devastation if you continue down this path because clearly – at least on YOUR PART – you have a strong emotional connection FOR him. It doesn’t sound like he has one for you. Are you just delaying the inevitable to put off the pain you feel/will feel?

    You said you will be done with it. Which I think is the way to go, but then you turn around and say “I am going to let time tell … Either I lose my interest in him (which is clearly underway that I can notice), or we “fall in” a relationship over time, because we both can’t find someone else that fit us better….”

    How is that being done with him? And he won’t “fall into” a relationship with you if he hasn’t already. Especially if he won’t commit. I’ve never read anyone try to convince themselves so much about something that’s not real. Wow. Scary. You’ve fabricated your own fantasy.

    #581559
    Meemee

    C – maybe you are right about step dad… I have to be convenienced when I run into that good man… For now, my ex is a fairly devoted dad, we do week on/week off with my two boys… We live 3 traffic lights away, we still share the same nanny that we had for the past 12 years since my older son was born… So i really don’t feel the need to get another father figure for my boys….

    In terms of the guy, you are right, he is not interested, at least not enough… I have long come to terms with that… And I am stopping initiating… Like you said, if he comes after me later on which I highly doubt, I can re-assess then… Otherwise, I will let this die a quiet death… and i am totally in peace with that idea….

    Thank you

    #581562
    Sam

    Nothing you said after “I guess…” really matters. You don’t really know what you want or you don’t believe you can get what you really want. End of story. That’s why you get nothing but lukewarm, unsuitable men over and over. Nothing will change until you know what you want and you know you are having it.

    #581566
    Kathy

    I am glad everyone on here finds it ‘so easy’ to find the perfect guy, That why we’re all on here.

    And we all have the right to handle things as we wish. Meemee has said she is at peace with what she is doing. She is trying to let her feelings come down for this guy, and when they do, she will probably let him go. What is wrong with that??

    That’s what I did with my LD guy, and I am glad I did it that way. I was positive I wanted to let him go until he had more time for me and I did. I don’t recommend anyone anything different until they realize it is what they want to do..

    I am glad everyone on this site finds it so easy to find an available, suitable partner for them whenever they wish. We all should drop someone we like who is meeting some of their needs and not abusing us in any way, asap. If Meemee found someone she really liked other than this guy she would drop him. And just because he is somewhat in her life doesn’t mean she isn’t keeping her eyes open when someone else comes along. Women are capable of this just as much as men are. Don’t underestimate us..

    #581567
    Kathy

    *That’s why*

    *anyone doing anything different*

    #581587
    Sonora

    Kathy, Meemee is a big girl. if she is posting here then she has to know that it’s open for comment. if she or you don’t want the comments, then you don’t have to post. Meeting the right guy is only a struggle if we make it that way. At any age, there are plenty of good men out there. Although it’s obvious from your posts that you and she believe otherwise. Which is then what you experience.

    #581605
    Kate

    So Meemee, when was the last time he initiated contact with you?

    #581614
    Meemee

    Kate – that was last Wednesday when I was in Cancun… due to connection, I did not see it until Thursday when I responded…. noting from there… Monday I got back and I initiated and asked him what changed, and he was utterly confused as to he did not understand why I even asked the question…..A few back and forth, and I left there …..

    The last 6 months has definitely been a learning experience for me… I initially thought he was a player only motivated by sex, no interest in other things ….As time goes on, I realized he is just a very disengage and distant type of personality…

    Looking around, I have coworkers like that, I have gf who dated guys like that…. it usually ended the same way – the girl got so fed up trying to engage and could not, and after 2-3 years move on….

    “Fed-up” is exactly how I feel today…and that is why I left it yesterday and totally fine with just letting it die a quiet death now…

    Kathy – don’t worry about me….. I work around screamers all my life… my current cfo can be very short and very humiliating too…. i am good at letting go negativity… I can just laugh them off…

    In the last few days, there are few posts about this type of guys…. not sure why some guys have his type of personality ..

    #581717
    Danita

    Their personality is non of your concern. Be happy Meemee, I’am sure you can :) as far as I understood from your posts, you have everything to feel good about yourself in life, including two children. So just let be it! I hope you are well.

    #581719
    Danita

    *including two children that are happy to have a caring mother (I did somehow delete this part of my respons)

    #581723
    Meemee

    Thanks Danita – as a matter of fact, when I got to work this morning, I was the first one in the office, my CFO is down in LA this week for offsite….

    So I sat down, took out my phone, deleted all his pic, his message, and his number… I then went to the delete folder to delete again just so it is really gone….

    Feeling relieved…. I think I am finally ready to let him go….Lol….

    #581725
    Jippity

    I;m glad that you’re feeling ready to let go Meemee.

    I don’t think it’s a case of everyone being able to find the perfect guy as you said Kathy. I see it as being emotionally ready and available for when the right guy comes along. That’s what this website has taught me anyway. When I got here I was wasting my time, love, care, body and mind with a man who met some of my needs, but not all.

    I let go and did a lot of self-improvement work to get myself back to a good place emotionally. Some months later I met a really lovely guy, who is now my boyfriend. If I was still involved with the first man then I would never have met my BF, and even if I had, my mind and heart would have been elsewhere.

    It’s almost like a cloud of confusion these guys put you under, and you can’t see the decent men through it. So this is why everyone is telling Meemee to let go, because once you do, and once you’re ready, you’ll be able to spot the good man who meets ALL your needs and wants in a relationship.

    I do hope that you both, Meemee and Kathy, find the kind of loving, committed partner that you are worthy of.

    #581726
    Danita

    I am sure you will sort it out quickly :) I hope that deleting his photos will help. I have a friend that has the same modus operandi and a similar life situation that you have. Recently I have learned from her that some people are not able to do a “clean cut” and they need to progress on their on pace.

    I Don’t think you are a mess, that statement was really unfair.

    #581791
    Meemee

    Just as I made the mental decision to let him go and deleted his everything thing, he texted me last night around 10 pm apologizing for lack of communication, saying he was in the city (San Francisco) all day because one of his teams clashed with the compnay that they are auditing, and that when can he see me again?

    He, apparently, did not think 5 days of no communication is any problem, got very confused as to it is a big deal for me, and now thinks everything is just fine, had no clue that I already made my decision to cut him off…

    #581792
    Jen

    He has no clue that you want to cut it off, because you haven’t told him. He can’t read your mind. And the pattern of communication hasn’t changed. It’s still sporadic and centered around what works for him.

    You know he just tells you what you want to hear.

    I don’t think just deleting him on your phone is letting him go. I’m amazed at how women are not afraid to get involved with a man but then don’t have the balls to end it properly. You keep saying this man is into you and in his mind he is seriously dating you, yet you don’t have the decency to tell him to his face that is isn’t working for you.

    So here you go again on the merry go round.
    You create your own problems memee.

    #581813
    alia

    Meemee – please look up a term “abandoholism” and “outer child”. I think you will find valuable information there in how to not get involved with unavailable men. You do create your own pain and you need to stop.

    #581825
    Nat

    Meemee, I knew you were not on the same page with this guys in terms of what regular communication means. He is into you, clearly, but he is an emotional douche. You said his way of resolving issues with his ex wife was “stay out of her way”? You can just hear us all go OMG, that surely is going to solve things. So he is a douche, not a clue about women’s emotional needs. You, on the other hand, are too proud to tell him what you want in a non-aggressive manner. As a result you accumulated so much resentment against this poor chat that you don’t like him anymore.

    I sincerely think it is better to yell at the guy and tell him what you need than hide and sulk. The best option of course would be to find a guy who’d give it to you naturally but we all know how easy it is, so if you are keeping his sorry ass around, you need to speak up. And call him yourself whenever you feel like it. Stop making it an issue. He is not ignoring you on purpose to hurt you or to show you he is not into you. He is not available, he is just a busy douche.

    If it were me at the end of my call with him I’d tell him “call me or text me in a couple of days, do not drop communication for 5 days, I hate it when you do it and it upsets me. Take care to check in with me”.

    It can be as simple as that.

    But in the meantime keep looking around for someone who is a little more literate in womens affairs. lol

    #581829
    Meemee

    Nat – you are too funny!!!!!!

    I have been “seeing” this guy for 7 months now, first 4 months was I thinking he was a player, that all the time he did not text me, he was texting someone else…It is really the last 2-3 months that I came to realize what I am really dealing with – a busy man that is severely lacking in communication style and also who does not seem to desire much emotional connections…

    I agree with you that the only way to date him is to set up an alarm in his iphone to remind him to text you every day at 9:15AM…..But do I want to go that way?

    I decided yesterday that I dont want to go that way, I’d rather find someone that is more warm and engaging…..So I have not responded to his text yet….and I probably won’t….

    If he continues to reach out, and I decide to give it another try, I will definitely take your advice to have that talk, and set up the alarm in his phone…..

    But I am not sure if I want to go the route….I put myself back on match last night, got 11 emails this morning… So we will see… Maybe I will find a better man soon…..

    #581833
    Nat

    Good luck with match Meemee, you are a catch, still relatively young, no diapers, good job, ton of dough, patient with clueless douches. So slip into stilettos, buy a whip and use it. LOL

    #581835
    Jen

    My observation about you meemee is that you either don’t know what you want or can’t articulate it.

    Going back on a dating website without clarification just gets you more of nothing.

    For a woman who claims to be so competent, you act extremely immature when it comes to communication and relationships.

    I suggest you stay off the dating sites and give yourself a month or two to figure yourself out. Decide what you really want and write it down. Then when you are ready to date, make it clear what you want and don’t settle for less.

    You go into these situations either wish washy, at best, or compromising what you really want and then hit a dead end.

    I also think that a mature woman knows how to get out of a situation in a classier way than to just delete someone’s number and ghost. But then this gets back to your inability to speak up for yourself and have mature dialogue about not only getting into a relationship but also out of one,

    You had a great chance to practice asking for what you wanted with this guy, you focused on minutiae and not the bigger picture. And even so, asking him to text you more was still less than what he wants to offer. The title to your thread was you were going to tell him what you wanted. But you aren’t honest with him or yourself. Because if you had been you would have told him you want a relationship, not a few more text messages.

    This isn’t picking on you, it’s an observation. And Nats advice is off the wall. The last thing you need to do is program a man’s phone to text you. She has encouraged you all this time to keep pursuing which was as you can see ridiculous,

    It’s not about ‘patience’ it’s about a man’s level of true interest. A woman never has to do any work when a man really wants to be with you.

    Seriously.. take a break and stop the madness.

    #581839
    kenz

    Jen,
    I thought meemee did articulate quite well what she wants… she doensn’t want a relationship that leads to marriage or a move in…so as she said, that makes it blurry when it comes to a relationship vs FWB. But you are right, writing down exactly what that would look like would be helfpul.

    I also don’t think the issue was just about the texting, it was about a lack of emotional connection all together. His lack of texting I think was more of a symptom of his lack of strong connection to her.

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