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  • #394164 Reply
    Suave

    Just a thought ladies….I was just wondering if the reason we stick around with these emotionally unavailable guys is because we are addicted to them…..then when they don’t want to be with us… We go into withdrawals and miss them so much. It’s like we are addicted to a drug….that’s why I think it took me a long time to finally let my ex bf go…..very interesting. But I learned a big lesson….Never Go With A Guy That does not show that is emotional available. I know about that now…..

    #394168 Reply
    Maria

    I agree Suave, it IS like an addiction – that’s what Stefanie also said to me about my situation in another thread. It’s totally unhealthy and we need to stop doing it. Last night I went to a party where I saw an old guy friend who knows my dating history well. I told him about what had happened and guess what he said: knowing what kind of men you have dated in the past, I’m sorry to to say you just keep bringing this to yourself with your low self esteem. I stung to hear that as I’ve always thought I know what I’m worth. But I guess there’s no denying it: by clinging on to emotionally unavailable men we do devalue ourselves. It’s not the guy or anything he did wrong, it’s us letting that happen to us. I know there are great women out there who respect themselves and require men to treat them with that same respect. Lane is a prime example! :) I look at her comments with envy and try to find that same love for myself within me. It’s just that not every guy is the right one for us and we should accept that with grace and self-respect. Love ourselves enough not to let anyone treat us badly.

    #394199 Reply
    Elisabeth

    I find this so amazing! I don’t know any of you, we are probably spread out all over the world, but I come on here with my issues and get the most fantastic, wonderful response and help. Thank you thank you thank you ladies. Isn’t this so much better than talking to friends and family who just tell you you’re the best and the guy’s an idiot?

    You’re all right, we need to stop focusing on the ”why”, what has happened has happened. I must accept his decision, although it’s hard. However, the worst thing and the thing I can’t accept at the moment is that I was so wrong about him! That I completely misjudged someone and fooled myself in the process. That hurts so damn much.

    What your dad said is great Maria! It’s so basic that you should focus on your own wants and needs, but I think part of the problem I have (and perhaps some of you others as well?) is that I’m so scared of never finding that person who is willing to commit..That thought really scares the hell out of me! I feel stressed and old, even though I know I shouldn’t.

    It sounds like some of you have also had this pattern of falling for the same type of guy..I never see that they are the same type until it’s over, so I’m wondering how to break that habit..I mean, I thought I had broken the habit this time! So how do we make sure it doesn’t happen again?

    I’m gonna go listen to that Rush song now..

    And ouch Newbie, that hurt but it was probably what I needed to hear.

    #394202 Reply
    Harley

    Elizabeth. ..stop going for the same guy by breaking your habits.

    start weeding out the shit guys.

    1. watch actions and words match…He phones. ..takes you out on dates.. is consistent..not a huge texter. does not cancel. pays. Initiates the chase….All the time.

    2. he’s interested in your life.

    3. he’s Interested in having a relationship.

    4. He talks about his ex little but nicely.

    5. He treats others nice.

    6. He has short term goals and long terms goals. A future plan re his life. hopes and dreams and ambition.

    7. He has a career…or trying to get one.

    8. He had NO addictions or serious baggage. ..I.e not newly separated/psycho ex.

    10. He has his shit together…is happy. . patient…kind…friendly. thinks well of others and not always put himself first.

    11. does not push for sex.. tries it but redirects your wishes when you say NO.

    12. you both agree on core value things re kids. …marriage….money…trust…honesty etc.

    And. ..A million other things I can’t think of right now.

    #394203 Reply
    Harley

    11….respects your wishes when you say NO.

    #394664 Reply
    Suave

    I love your list Harley….very true……god how I wish I would of sign on this site earlier, I could of avoided a lot of heart ache.

    #394670 Reply
    Harley

    Better late than never Suave ! it took me getting 2 rejection tons in the space of 7 mths…Both guys from my pat life yrs ago
    ..One I was engaged to
    ..to start figuring out this dating/relationship lark !

    #394671 Reply
    Harley

    past life **

    #394686 Reply
    Allie

    Maria… :'(

    I feel like crying now..

    I met this guy online just last year but i initially didn’t have any interest in him at all until he told me that he’s coming here and that he will take me out when he does, only after a month of chatting. We’re literally thouwof miles apart. I didn’t think t it was all for real until one afternoon he called me directly telling me that he’s finally here. He’s only allowed to spend 5 days because of his job overseas and i didn’t get to see him on his first day cause i had to go to work. When i saw him the first time, i knew everything was just perfect and he was such a gentleman which i never expected. We literally spent the entire remaining 4 days together, most of the time just locked up in the hotel room cuddling and having real good conversations. I know it sounds really crazy because it’s just the first time that we really met. I just also wanna add that he didn’t force me into having sex with him during those days. And he also told me that he likes me but he’s not into long distance relationships anymore. At that time, he just explained that it’s because he’ll just be frustrated if he can’t be with his girlfriend due to the distance.

    So he already left but even after that, we continued talking everyday through chats and phone calls. His personality and just pretty mucheverything about him made me realize that he’s already the best guy that I’ve ever met. I’ve never seen anyone so goal orientedand very disciplined until i met him.

    We had a big argument one time after i told him that i like him over the phone.He said he feela the same way but he just cant be in a long-distance relationship anymore. He just cant do it and if i make him feel pressured abt it, he will just quit talking to me.

    We continued talking on a daily basis while im making sure that i don’t mention my feelings anymore. And things just went fine. He even told me that he filed for another vacation but it wont be until after a few months. He said he had a really really good time with me the first time and so he wanted to see me again. So he called on the new year’s eve and told me that he should be here in a week or two. And so we spent another 5 days together and everything is just magical and perfect. I finally realized that im already inlove with this guy but i didn’t tell him, i couldn’t do it because of the fear that he might leave me forever. There was a time that he told me that he hasnt dated nor kissed anyone ever since we met. I did the same thibg too over the past months, im only focused on him. We had this relationship conversation again, this time we’re not fighting anymore and that’s the time he disclosed to me that he still have some feelings for his ex and that happened to be a LDR too. They broke up a year ago, didn’t have any more communication since then but he said he still loves her and thinks that she’ll probably end up with her. Obviously i was torn to pieces because of this shocking discovery and so i cried in front of him, still being silent about my real feelings.

    He bought me gifts, tells me that im one of the best girls that he met every now and then, and that my future is very important to him so he started helping me. I quit my job a month ago and proceeded with studying again to get my certification this May.

    He already left for the second time and before he did, he said he’s uncertain if he can still come back because he needs to move to another country in a few months and proceed with his fighting career while working. We still talk on a daily basis.I realized how mmuch he inspires me and that i am really inlove with thia guy. I also realized that i cant let him go because of the mindset that he’s already the best ever and that once im prepared to leave my country too, i would most likely follow him wherever he is. I know that i also have my own life and career to pursue but i also know that this guy is just really who i want and need and love. Not everyone connects the same way and there was an amazing spark between us that i just can’t seem to let go.and that spark never died since the first day.

    I probably already know that I’m being too blind. I guess i need someone’s help To open my eyes. :'(

    Thanks Maria, hope to hear from you back. :)

    #394693 Reply
    Stefanie

    I am going to say this once because a lot of people seem to be reading this thread.

    Everything and I mean everything in your life is what YOU attract. Here is what it takes to get something different and better than what we are getting with men (and in our lives in general).

    1) Know your needs and wants.
    2) Know as sure as the sun rises in the east that they can be met
    3) Be able to communicate them energetically and verbally in a way that is consistent, honest and clear from your authentic self.
    4) Take responsibility for 100% of your 50% of the relationship and NO MORE than that.

    It is that simple and straightforward.

    What I realized is I am not clear on my needs and wants. Therefore, when I go dating, I meet men who are also unclear. That is what we are all dealing with, if you read all the threads. And we think it’s him and we think we have to drag him or somehow manipulate him to our will. Now, there are going to be challenges in relationships and there are going to be times when someone doesn’t want what we want. Following this formula doesn’t guarantee we will get the guy we think we want. He has free will.

    I have spent the weekend getting clear on what my needs and wants are in a relationship. (When you do this, there is automatically no need to focus on what you don’t want.) I’ve already seen the shift in my life.

    If you are posting here because you are not getting what you want from a man, look at these four steps. I guarantee you are having an issue with one or more of them if you are struggling with him. Or you haven’t accepted that he said NO and moved on.

    I hope this helps. I’m not going to keep posting it and I’m going to be here a lot less often because it’s time for me to move on. I’m thinking of ways I can spread this message.

    I wish all of you the life and love you really want.

    xoxo

    #394695 Reply
    Hazel

    Allie dear,

    I’m sorry this is happening to you. Please create your own thread with your own story so it doesn’t get confusing with Maria’s, and everyone else has chance to chime in and give you some great advice. Hugs.

    #394701 Reply
    AllieI

    I was just really hoping to hear what Maria has to say and this is the only way that i can think of to get her attention. Lol, i was expecting that response while I was typing this. So yea, let me try that too. :)

    #394828 Reply
    Elisabeth

    Thank you Stefanie, that is a great post! Another thing I’d like to add is that we must be better at sticking to our needs and wants. I am so guilty of adapting my needs to suit the guy: I know what I want to begin with, then when he does not live up to it, I lower my expectations. No one can ever be 100% according to your criteria, but if they don’t fulfill the basics they’re not worth pursuing anymore. I’ll try to remember this!

    #394973 Reply
    Maria

    Hi Allie,

    Sorry to hear about your situation. I know this isn’t what you want to hear but the guy has made it clear he doesn’t want a relationship now. It doesn’t matter if he doesn’t want it in general or just not with you, he simply doesn’t want it. It doesn’t matter if he hasn’t been seeing anyone else, he is not fully and emotionally committed to you. And that, my friend, is not a place to begin a real relationship from. Period. He is emotionally unavailable and you need to accept that. It is hard but just let go and stop thinking about what happened, could’ve been and what all his words and actions meant. Just accepting and…be.

    At the same time, you need to realize accepting it’s not going to work out with him is only the start. You need to start putting the focus back on you because you’re the only person whose happiness you are fully in control of. Only you can make yourself happy and that includes only being with men who want to be with you. Stefanie listed great things to do about focusing on yourself. Go do them. I know it’s easier said than done but reaching a happy and full life will put you in a totally different mental place. Once you truly love and appreciate yourself, you’ll see when a guy is not worth you. You will know that only a fully committed relationship where you’ll feel safe and respected (no need to walk on egg shells by, for example, avoiding expressing your feelings) will do.

    Lastly, please let go of the idea of The One. You seem to think this guy is really unique and special and you will never meet anyone like him. Big BS!!! :) It’s sometimes hard to see but the world is full of men. Some of them are great but not all of them will give 100% of themselves to you. Accept it and learn to move on from those who are not. You know, you have guy friends who are great and you know they would be amazing BF material but to you they’re just friends, right? Same goes for many other men you haven’t even met yet. A new great guy will come around and hopefully it will work out with him. Good luck!

    #394989 Reply
    Suave

    Maria
    You rock!

    #395218 Reply
    Allie

    Maria, thank you soooo much. You really are amazing, you have to know that! Ummm for a start, we had a not So good talk again and he decided he’ll take a break and he did. I kind of freaked out again but after some time of thinking, I realized that’s the right thing to do. Um not actually cause it should’ve been me who initiated the “break” but I wasn’t strong enough to do that. Good thing he did and I’ll work on making this break a permanent end to this BS. I still don’t know what would happen in the future, no one does but for now I’ll shut down everything first, create a temporary shell for myself so i can fully heal. Thank you Maria dearest. XOXO :)

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