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kimf
But how posts were there about this relationship? That’s not being blindsided. Its not codependency..its having your peace wrapped up in the actions of another. Its something totally different.
kimf
Jenny…you nailed it. There’s that feeling that its not right, although there are no red flags and the person is great. I just ended it with a guy when he did everything right. I just simply wasn’t into him and I have to trust my gut.
Jenny
& I’m also w Kate. To be real, most couples tend to have co-dependent traits. I attribute that to weak minded individuals. However, how you’re feeling & what you’re going through is not what I would consider signs of co-dependency, rather, just normal break-up pains… If anything, I’d say you have some self-esteem and self-control issues, but who doesn’t? That’s always going to be a work in progress through life
Newbie
Alia, your last post upset me a bit. I think sas explained her state of mind really well and i believe it. I seen many women here in denial and defensive about it, but you have to accept the fact that some feel they are misunderstood. As i think is the case here. It doesn’t mean we can have conflicting emotions about issues, that’s how we people are.
mimi
Alia, I think you’ve made your point, and now you need to let it go.
Sass, best of luck to you. Read and digest all the free advice that’s been given, and think long and hard about where you are and what you’re doing. Listen to your inner voice when you meet with him and you’ll make the right choice. We’ve all been there! :)
Sassperilla
You really think it’s normal to fall in love – properly – with someone you’ve only known for 3 months?
I don’t agree. Love comes later. After like!!
JR
Lane is so right, it works when you don’t care or think about it. I read something today that said, “I think we think too much about a certain thing, when we truly find what makes us happy stick to it, if not walk away with no questions. We just think too much.” If you think about it, it’s very true. I know a relationship is not something you walk away from all the time, but maybe now and then not think of it as a relationship and truly enjoy life and at a very slow speed. If we were always thinking that way…yeah right.
LAgirl
Tread carefully on this Sass.
He is responding as a result of your text- which may have him feeling guilty. Nothing wrong with your text other than it did sound to me as if you were attempting to ‘convince’ him that you are good together.
Had he come back to you on his own without that prompting, I would feel better. I say this because it was his own choosing and not potentially based on guilt.
When a person changes their mind as a result of being ‘convinced’ many times they go along with it for awhile, but if they really don’t feel it of their own volition, they usually revert back to the original feeling or conclusion.
Sassperilla
LA girl I know I have thought the same. Although he’s very much a man’s man and not emotional quite blunt etc so I don’t think he’d risk embroiling himself further if he didn’t really want it.
That said I am hoping for an adult conversation which will end the way it ends – I don’t want to be with someone who doesn’t equally want to be with me.
I’m meeting him at a coffee shop so therenwont be any chance of getting physical. It will just be talking.
Jenny
You sound pretty stable. Go & see what he has to say. Prob something like blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Lol. Men are a dime a dozen. When it gets to THIS place where the feel of the relationship is this serious, anxiety filled, confused, stressful, blah tone… I’m out. Nothing needs to be said if the feel is wrong for me. If a discussion is what’s needed to rebalance, fine. But linger in that feeling for too long & I’ve prob already detached
Ivy
This comment is in response to the comments on age and desirability.
I think very few women here realize that the number of men who look at you on the street is not a determining factor in a woman’s ability to seek and find a relationship partner. If it were — then no Hollywood movie star would ever be single or heartbroken. Once a woman starts judging her worth as a person and as a relationship partner on the number of men who look at her, she naturally lowers her own self-esteem and by virtue of that she lowers her desirability to men. It’s simply not an attractive frame of mind. Do we like to be admired for beauty, yes. May it happen less with age, yes. Does this mean that one is less worthy, less desirable or less capable of attracting a man? No it does not. I think if a woman thinks like this she needs to work on her self-esteem, that is the real problem.
A WOMAN ISN’T MORE WORTHY OR EVEN MORE LIKELY TO FIND A LONG TERM LOVING HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP PARTNER BASED ON THE NUMBER OF TIMES SHE IS LOOKED AT ON THE STREET, FLIRTED WITH, OR ASKED OUT. I KNOW MORE WOMEN THAT HAVE MORE DATES THAN ME AND THEY NEVER EVEN HAD A RELATIONSHIP OVER 6 MONTHS.
I also think that self-esteem is the biggest factor in a woman’s dating experience. Google “dating for marriage” there is way better info on that than simple dating articles on how to make a guy like you.
Ivy
And Sass, Good luck on the coffee thing. This is actually a good chance for you to get a better understanding of what this guy’s issues are and/or some closure. I hope that you use it as great learning tool whether it works out with this guy or not. Good luck!!!
Jenny
Ivy, I agree. I’ve actually found it difficult to have a line of suitors waiting at my door… Not only do I have to deal with the paradox of choice- too many options so second guessing my final decisions, but I find myself falling into the pattern of liking the ones that show lesser interest just because… Bottom line, there’s someone out there for everyone. Takes time to find someone you’re truly compatible with. This is not only essential to leading the best life possible but it’s also a really difficult process on top of that. But the moments shared with others should be what’s cherished. Even if you don’t end up with someone, think of the great experiences you got to share together. It’s not so much about the destination, but the JOURNEY… You’ll have your ups and downs, even lonely moments in the pouring rain. But the rainbows, glitter, and gold seen along the way is what makes life worth living, no? Don’t waste time dwelling or drowning in the bad
mimi
Please report back, Sass! I’ve been thinking of you. How did it go?
Emily
Hi Sass,
I have been wondering as well, and cheering for you. Let us know when you are ready.Sassperilla
Ok… Update for you…
So we met yesterday for a walk round the park. He said he doesn’t know what happened, he had a big night on Sunday had a terrible hangover on Monday and started thinking, got this into his head about not feeling it and it was eating away at him and then he phoned me and straight away he knew he was making a mistake… So he thought about it and talked to his mum and he thinks he just had a freak out and panicked, his mum said to him is he afraid of getting hurt himself maybe, he said he wishes he could give me a better explanation but he doesn’t know where it came from. He also said he’s not really had any big relationships he usually gets to three months and bails, even 3 dates is long for him. Which is not what he told me before!!! Red flag at his age, I know but then I’m a similar age with a chequered relationship history…
I said I’ve been hurt before when I’ve put myself out there so instead I tried the other approach this time and let him lead and it still backfired. He said I need to do more and make more of the arrangements that it’s a two way street. He has definitely done all of the work and I suppose that could be tiresome if you think you’re not getting anywhere with it. I agreed I’d been passive and I would do more. He said we should do more together like not just see each other one night then wait for one of us to make the next date and I was like I totally agree but that’s the next level so it’s not that what we’ve been doing has been wrong it’s only been 3 months.
He said he was sorry and would I take him back. I said are you sure you don’t want to go away and think about this a while longer, he said no I’m sure I don’t want to let you go, he thinks we could “go the distance”… So perhaps predictably I said yes let’s give it another go – yes, maybe I’m a mug – but if he changes his mind again to not leave me hanging and also that would be it over for good.
We have planned out the next three weeks of when we’ll see each other because we are both away here and there over that period. This includes going away somewhere for my birthday – apparently…
Sooooooo yeah I know, perhaps I’m naive here, but we’re giving it another shot. This morning very unexpectedly I got a huge bunch of flowers delivered from him much to my colleagues amusement and my mortification but I’ve never had that before and I’m pretty sure someone who didn’t mean what they were saying wouldn’t bother with that…
Thoughts?
Tara
Sass,
I think it sounds wonderful! I am glad you are taking him at his word, and letting the relationship go where it needs to.
I love the flowers!
So, of course you should continue seeing him, IMO. I would take this time to get to know him better, and see where it all takes you.
I wish you all the best here. It is heartwarming for us all to see a guy coming ’round. :)
Emily
Wow. I wish you best of luck. You handled it SO well. Especially the statement that if you are willing to be more active if you two bring it to another level. Brilliant. Are you two bf/gf / official / exclusive now or are you going to see how it goes in the next few weeks?
Mimi
Sounds great!!!!!
Everyone can have a moment of “freak out” and I’m glad he was man enough to admit it. I’ve often wondered that it’s a lot of pressure for a man to constantly plan and lead, and that at a certain point it needs to be 50-50.
I admire you for giving it another chance! He’s a lucky guy. :)Sherri
Its all good Sass. I usually do not agree with the let the man initiate all the time thing which is preached here. Rather agree with Tall that initiate a bit so that the guy knows that the girl is interested and not just along for the ride. But if in doubt always let the guy initiate.
But remember, if he has a freak out again …. u need to have a talk face to face
Khadija
Well I’m glad to hear you two were able to talk and work something out.
I hope this relationship can grow into something long term for you.
He made a mistake and was willing to fess up to it.
Best wishes to you!Heidy Perez
OMG, I just read your first post and I feel the exact same way… I’m so done with this, going to be 37 in 4 months and I’m starting to think that I’m going to be alone forever. I really hope it works out for you, that way I won’t lose hope in love….
Sanni
Sass..My advice to you, derived from my own personal experience beacuse I was in a somewhat similar situation as you…..
First of all, you really need to stop worrying about what other people think of your choices and decisions. You also need to stop looking for direction from others as to what step you should take next. It’s OKAY to seek advice, here and there, but you have to learn to trust your own gut, your own instincts and most importantly, your own ability to make deicions for yourself. A lot of the ladies here truly care about the stories they read here, they can truly relate and genuinely want to help, BUT! the information provided is very limited and the whole picture of your situation is not so clear, because only YOU and HIM know what it’s really like, what kind of person he is, and what your relationship looks like behind closed doors. People only get a lil snap shot of that and then they relate it to their own personal experience, that is why you’ll get mixed opinions beacuse some will be absotely PRO NC and some will be agreeable to contact…You have to take what you believe best fits your personal situation and then make your own decisions from there. I find that when I get TOO many opinions I start to over think things, I start to creat scenerio’s that don’t actually exist and then next thing you know, I’m making choices and decisions that maybe work against me. I’m NOT saying for you to not listen, All i’m saying is that take what you need, and do what you feel is best for YOU!!
So most know that I’ve reconnected with my ex, a lot don’t agree but you know what, that’s totally ok beacuse I’M HAPPY with MY choice….SO! My advice to you in this situation is (and again, take what you can use, leave the rest if it’ doesn’t apply) Tke things slow, get to know him as a person, as a friend, as who he truly is and accept him for who he really is, his flaws and all. He said that he needs you to be more invloved, SO DO SO! Don’t play this game of “Oh I’m going to sit back and make you do all the work beacuse I’m a woman and a prize” YES YOU ARE A PRIZE, but a prize doesn’t just sit back and take, take, take, she has to show him she appreciates him back by taking some initiative and making him feel special too! It is a two way street, I firmly belive that. I mean if he doesn’t feel special, cared for, liked in return, what’s going to make you expect he’ll stick around? I’m not saying that you have to bend over backwards for him, never! But I am saying, make him feel good once in awhile too and plan stuff, get involved.
I totally understand his freak out, my ex did the same thing. He had SO much going on in his life (still kind of does) and we reached the 6 month mark and he FREAKED! he panicked and pulled the plug. he felt we were moving way to fast (we were) and that I needed more than he can provide at the time…When I look back, I can see and understand where he’s coming from. I’m NOT devaluing myself by understanding him, NOR do I believe that i’m settling by giving him a chance. People will think that, but that’s okay, that’s their opinions, I have to do what I feel in my heart is what i need to do. And maybe you need to do the same beacuse at the end of the day, it’s your life, therefore you need to make those choices beacuse no one else is going to live with them but you.
My next piece of advice is to allow him to lead, especially if he’s fearful due to his past. This doesn’t mean that you can’t take part or even initiate, but learn how to plant that see and allow him to water it, this way he believes that he’s making the decisions and he will feel good about it, he’ll feel more stable and confident in the growth of your relationship. IF he feels pressured to move the relationship in a direction he’s not quite ready for, he MAY go along with it for a first little bit but i guarantee you that he will snap out of it and realize what’s going on and he will freak out again and bolt! He may even feel resentment and you don’t want that.
I’m doing this with my ex, Im allowing him to lead our “relationship” and I use that term loosely because we’re just not there yet…I want him to feel good about the choices we make in regards to hanging out, seeing each other…etc. I want him to feel comfortable and feel as though HE’S making these decisions too, not me carving the path out for him to walk down, we’re doing it together and so far it seems like he’s much more happier and comfortable. I do not feel a need to define anything at this moment, and I’m very much okay with that, why? Because in my heart, I do believe he’s worth this chance and I do believe that IF we are going to be together, then what’s the rush to get there RIGHT NOW, i’m just enjoying my time with him and that’s really it.
Lastly, live in the moments! don’t live in the future! if you do, he will pick up on this and it won’t be good. Also, try to keep people out of your relationship as much as you can, beacuse friends tend to get too invloved sometimes and they love you and care about you, so they want you to be in a place they feel they believe you want to be in, and sometimes they end up pressuring you to get there! and if your relationship is a bit stagnant or in a place that they can’t understand, they start to lay it on thicker by saying things like, “Well shouldn’t you be here by now? has he said he loves you? why hasn’t he said he loves you yet? why haven’t you reached this milestone yet….blah blah blah” Who cares what other ppl say or think, every relationship is different and everyone has their own views of what a relationship should look like, live your relationship based on whats best for the two of you, NOT what’s best in the publics eye and view point.
Anyways, good luck sass! I’m glad you’re getting and giving his a second chance! :)
Lane
Great Sass.
Just be cool and don’t let his mini freak out keep you freaked out or you won’t have fun in this relationship and always be wondering if the shoe will drop again. Just take it one day at a tine, live and enjoy the present, try not to panic or over think too much and you’ll be fine. Just be yourself and if its meant to be it will happen naturally :-)
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