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    Jen

    A year ago, when I was 21, I met a guy and from the very first time we hung out we never stopped. The only time we weren’t together is when we were working. We never talked about feelings but we would hook up all the time. I knew it would soon end because he was only on a break with his girlfriend of almost 4 years. Well it did and he cut me off completely even as friends. I never fought it. But he still blocked my number, my Facebook, and He missed my birthday.

    Months later I still couldn’t stop thinking about him. He was THEE ONE that got away. He has since then completely ended things with his girlfriend and we have gone back to hooking up. We go out and do things couples would do but he says he doesn’t want a relationship. However we went to a play on broadway and he wouldn’t even hold my hand walking in (I thought it would have been cute).

    He is not a mean guy at all though. he’s nice he drives me and he pays for our dates. But he won’t hold my hand or kiss me …..but I put up with it because I am secretly in LOVE with him. I’ve asked him why he doesn’t like me and he says he doesn’t want a relationship. I told him that’s okay I would just like more affection (because remember I really do love him). He refuses.

    Should I give up? Should I say anything? Should I just enjoy the time with him and accept his emotional unavailability? My heart is pounding for him and him only. PLEASE HELP!

    #375434 Reply
    yams

    I’m going to be harsh because I feel like it’s sometimes best:

    He may or may not be emotionally unavailable- that is irrelevant because he’s emotionally unavailable to you.

    When a guy says he doesn’t want a relationship, believe him. This guy isn’t even stringing you along. He’s made it clear that he likes hooking up with you and he enjoys your company. But the fact that he refuses to kiss you or be affectionate with you and point blank tells you no relationship equates to: Friends with Benefits. That’s what he sees you as.

    And no, your sticking around isn’t going to help him see what a great match you are for him. Right now, all he wants from you is sex + company. Guys can be pretty stubborn with these things and they don’t tend to gradually fall for a girl by sticking around with them (whereas girls do tend to fall for guys over time, especially if they’re intimate with them).

    The ONLY way he is going to POSSIBLY see that he wants you in his life….is if you leave. When he realises you’re not there, he either comes looking for you and offers you what YOU want (a relationship), or he is unwilling to give you what you want and just disappears.

    I know it’s had to move away from him, but do you really want to continue torturing yourself by falling further for a guy who won’t even be affectionate with you? Tell yourself you deserve more and go find it. Rip the bandaid off. It’s a lot more painful when it comes off bit by bit.

    #375438 Reply
    Jen

    yams,
    I know he’s not seeing anyone else. He is a home body soo he’s not going out and meeting new girls. We mostly hang out with his mom, his dad, or our best friends. And when I don’t want sex he’s fine with it. I did give him space and he came running back. But now we only hang out like once a week. He is my libido. Literally no one else attracts me. I’m so stuck. If I move on and see other men won’t that make him never want me back?

    #375439 Reply
    yams

    “I know he’s not seeing anyone else.”- it’s possible he is actually emotionally unavailable right now to everyone. But that everyone includes you. The problem with sticking around is that… yes he might eventually become emotionally available, but during that time you have to endure the pain of him not being with you in the way you want. And of course, there is always the risk that when he does become emotionally available, he just goes and finds another girl to be with. You don’t want to risk being his ‘filler girl’. You have to judge the situation for yourself- is this guy trying to be with you but seemingly unable to confront his issues or give you his all? I’m not sure that’s the case here.

    ‘when I don’t want sex he’s fine with it.’- he’s not an animal. he likes you as a person and respects your company and your wishes. that means he’s a good guy but not necessarily one for you.

    ‘I did give him space and he came running back.’- what happened here? and what did he say when he came running back? He just wanted the same arrangement right?

    ‘If I move on and see other men won’t that make him never want me back?’- if you move on and see other men, it will make him realise that he either loses you or that the only way he is going to have you is if he locks you down and gives you what you want. Of course, he may not end up coming after you, but that doesn’t necessarily have to be because he doesn’t want you; it could simply be because he just really can’t give you what you want. Either way you need to know.

    #375449 Reply
    Stefanie

    Sadly, this is a “you cannot be serious” post.

    Honey… he only wants to have sex with you. He’s been very honest about that. And you know it, but you still stick around You are not getting anything more. Why would you think he’d be interested in you?? You have no self-respect or pride to be in this situation. I’m not sure what ton of bricks has to hit your head for that to change. You will look back on this and be embarrassed. I was embarrassed for you reading it, that a nice young lady doesn’t think anything more of herself than to be used like this.

    #375451 Reply
    Jen

    yams,
    after he went back to his ex gf I went back to my life and never tried contacting him. About six months later he calls me out of no where and of course I answer. He wanted to take me out on the lake on his boat. but I said no…..I was kind of playing hard to get. when I eventually gave in weeks later we went for drinks and my drunken courage kicked in. he asked why I was being distance and I told him it was because of the falling out we had and I was still testing the waters with him. he didn’t disagree and he sincerely apologized for what happened. I played hard to get for a while until we went back into our usual groove. it’s so natural being with each other. no awkwardness. I feel like I’ve known him for forever.
    his mom told me that he doesn’t want to hurt me again and that’s why he is how he is but that’s what is hurting me that he is afraid to hurt me. I haven’t really talked to him much but how can I tell him that I am willing to maybe get hurt if it means I get to be with him? (BUT WITHOUT SOUNDING THAT DESPERATE)!

    #375457 Reply
    Harley

    Jen.. you are on a loser here. I’ve recently “been there, done that” and it hurts like hell. But you have to have the self respect and inner pride to move on. 2 things happen.. YOU heal and become a stronger person/will not settle for less, and HE MAY realise what he’s missing. Either way.. you win. Please do not be the back burner girl.

    Yams could not have explained it all better.

    #375459 Reply
    Jen

    thank you for the advice everyone. I realize I am pretty much being used but I know he’s not intending to. should I at least tell him how I feel about him before I head for the hills and never look back?

    #375460 Reply
    Yams

    Jen: When I said back off and let him come to you, that rly isn’t what i meant. When you backed off, he didn’t come to you. He went back to his ex and had his time with her and then finally when that was done and he was like ‘hmmm… who do i call now’, he called you. And then you guys went back to your previous arrangement

    When I say back off and let him come to you, i mean back off and if he does contact you, then you get back with him ON YOUR TERMS. I.e. you want me, you kiss me, you be affectionate with me etc. That’s a romance; that’s a relationship; that’s what you’re looking for! He’s not giving you that right now.

    And yes, men will come back and plead to come back to a friend with benefits or a woman they regularly have sex with. But if it’s just for the sex again, then nothing’s changed!

    #375463 Reply
    Harley

    NO………… you DON’T tell him how you feel. as a. he does not care, b. you come across needy/insecure.. turn him off and he runs EVEN MORE.

    Just go NC.. No Contact. AS Yams says.

    #375467 Reply
    Jen

    should I tell him I’m looking for more and that he can’t give it it to me so I think it’s best if we didn’t hang out anymore? I can’t just ignore him and never tell him why. he’s a realllly good friend too and I don’t want him to think I’m a b*tch. I want to come off as strong and independent but not needy or whiny.

    #375469 Reply
    Harley

    YES…… tell him if you want……. THEN WALK AWAY. DO NOT make a statement like that and then let him sex you back into bed. Then he knows he can ALWAYS treat you like this.

    #375472 Reply
    Jen

    THANK YOU!!! :)

    #375475 Reply
    Yams

    Actually Jen here’s what I would do:

    I would go NC. let him come to you to find out what’s going on. Then just be really short and cool and be like “I’ve had time to think, and I think I want more than what you’re offering. I understand you’re not in a place to give it and I respect your decision. However, I do need to move on’.

    If he asks if you can be friends– answer is “maybe in the future, but not now. I need my space”.

    #375482 Reply
    Jen

    yams omg that is perfect! thank u!!!

    #375490 Reply
    stefanie

    Never be afraid of being a b****.

    Babe In Control Of Herself
    Boys I’m The one in Charge Here

    :)

    Glad you’re learning fast Jen. You deserve a lot better.

    #375524 Reply
    Ivy

    Men simply don’t fall in love with their FWB.

    There is always an exception, you probabably won’t be it, sorry.

    See, you are settling, you are willing to have sex, hide your feelings of love, accept less than you want, just to be with him. You are lying to him and to yourself and men don’t fall in love with women are not true to their wants, their boundaries and who lie about their feelings- and that would be whether or not he was emotionally available or not.

    Also, I am going to say something revolutionary here —- tell this guy you love him and if he is a good man he will let you go. If he is a selfish man he will keep you very well knowing he doesn’t love you back. He already doesn’t want a relationship so it doesn’t matter what you do cause you won’t trick him into loving you.

    #375526 Reply
    Ivy

    I also do like Yams approach, but I think you should realize that you would be doing that for you and you should be prepared to walk away for real. If he comes back you should also realize that he might come back to get you into the FWB and you might think that he wants a relationship, men will give women their space, come back, offer the same non-relationship and women will often take it cause they missed the guy or think the guy realized how much he loves her and wants her back. Then a month later the girl will realize hey this is the same deal, this isn’t a relationship, that’s 9x out of 10. So if you do the walk away speech, mean it, don’t accept him back without evidence that his actions are showing he wants a relationship.

    Once again, there is no trick to get a man to love you. If there is, it is short lived and fades, love doesn’t work like that.

    #375639 Reply
    yams

    Completely agree Ivy.

    I’m going through the process of stepping back from a guy myself. In my case there’s no sex involved and I know he genuinely does like me/want to get to know me, but the problem is we had an argument and he wants to paper over cracks and go back to how things were (talking, flirting, sharing stuff with one another) because it’s easier than confronting his feelings/talking about stuff, and I don’t believe in that. I got tired of trying to make him do things maturely and I was starting to feel like I was being a crazy emotional girl etc. He’s quite inexperienced and stuff.

    Either way, I stepped away. I’ll admit that at the back of my mind I stepped away hoping I’d get a reaction out of him. But then just a few days of space on MY TERMS (it’s very diff when I guy tells you HE wants space cuz you spend all your time wondering and worrying) has done me marvels. It’s made me realise that I don’t want this guy back the way things were. I’d rather not have him at all if that’s all he can offer. If he can step up otherwise then that’s great, but otherwise– no. Not better than HIM per se, but I can do better than what he’s offering me.

    #375641 Reply
    yams

    What I’m saying is that a little space on her own terms can do any girl wonders!

    I rly believe that girls brains are like a ball of wire where everything is interconnected. Guys on the other hand have brains made up of many tiny boxes. So if relationships are bothering them they close that box and deal with the work box instead etc.

    This is why we get so caught up in things emotionally and it impacts every area of our life. Space does wonders!

    #375652 Reply
    Harley

    way to go yams !! right there with ya.

    #451180 Reply
    I know this situation (tar)

    I’m in this situation, I’m really in to this bloke I met on a course we did, I sat beside him for 3 months at the time I had no confidence no morels and defiantly no standards, we became really great friends which I felt friends wasn’t the only thing I felt, I ended up kissing his too friends on social occasions which I shouldn’t off because I knew there was something there I wasn’t sure about, as time went on I realised I wasn’t kissing the right people I wanted to kissing him, so eventually I told him and he dodged me after me getting the courage to tell him this that I never told any other boy befor I was dodged, panic stations heart palpatations everything I could of got, 2 weeks later he called me out to a pub, which was there his 2 friends that I kissed said he wanted to clear something up, me obviously thinking he was going to tell me outstraight how he didn’t want this, he told me he did like me he told me everything I wanted to hear and kissed me, can imagine my delight with what had happend, after that we kept kissing kept kissing social events he really did play on my heart strings, we’d txt talk on the phone every time I seen him my heart skipped a beat, I really thought he was the one at one stage, he made me smile so confidant and happy to be myself. I start liking his interestes id never in a million years would have thought I would like all for him cause I wanted to know him basically wanted to be apart of him because it thought he was my Prince Charming, someone that made me feel what norther boy made me feel before he always helped me, he always said the right thing, he was perfect.. Now he just shows me he likes me and makes me out to me a skit. Because I’m falling for him so much he is the first man i ever actually felt for. But he’s so different around his friends, but when he’s with me he’s that man I love (yes I love) and I can’t tell him because I’m afraid he will run at the thought because as Jen said there, 4 years out of a relationship he the very same now I’m trying to give him some space because he said he didn’t want it anymore now I’m thinking I’m not good enough for anyone else not that I want anyone else he completes me ???? iv gotten everything from him how he wanted to work on us and how he wanted and liked me but never showed it, so yes it is very hard when there giving you mixed emotions leaving you thinking there’s very much something wrong with uou… I can relate it’s very very tough to be the independent woman when your a woman in love!!!!!

    #451186 Reply
    Khadija

    try making a new post you will get more responses that way.

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