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    Kaitlyn Ng

    So for the past 5-6 months, I have been talking to this one guy, lets call him E. We met during our spring semester in college this year. The first time we met, E and I exchanged phone numbers because we were “homework buddies”, helping each other when we had problems on various classwork and studying for an upcoming exam. As time progressed during the semester, we talked every time before and after class, we walked together to and from class, and we would have occasional banters here and there over text. And as our “friendship” or what I thought was friendship bloomed a bit, I started to develop feelings for E. One bad thing about me though is that I don’t notice myself flirting, and people can read me very easily. And because I act as I normally do, but maybe with a bit more affection towards E, I kinda made it obvious without knowing. Then Covid happened and we all had to go home. During quarantine, we kept in touch through daily-ish texting, snap streaks, and Instagram. So, I thought to myself one day that maybe I should just tell E how I feel, and so I did. His response was quite alarming at first. He said he knew and noticed quite early on.
    I was a bit shocked to say the least and so I asked him why he never told me. His response was that he didn’t know how to say to me without feeling guilty or hurting my feelings because he was still unsure about his feelings towards me. So, during our next 7:30 pm saturday talks, we had a lengthy conversation about this situation. E said he never told me this but he is super interested in the one girl, but there were so many factors that prevented him and this girl to be together. E and this girl he is interested in had their ups and downs and it was complicated. And so, to not hurt my feelings, he was waiting for me to bring it up. I was a it hurt by this, because during the semester, he would always just playfully talk and banter with me like it was nothing. It hurt that I had this false hope and then later realize he was just waiting for me to tell him.
    However, the most weird and mixed situation from this conversation was that I didn’t understand how I fit into his life. Yeah we are good friends, but it’s just awkward right now. I asked him if I should distance myself from him, because he was pursuing this other girl, I thought he needed space and for me to not continually try to reach for his love. But his response was no. He wanted to still talk every Saturday, and he thought the distancing thing for me was a stupid idea and said he could explain everything to the girl. Plus he added that maybe things between the girl that he likes and him might not work out, so his answer about our possible future relationship is a maybe (so not a complete rejection). But deep down, I just feel so confused and kinda hurt. I kinda just want a straight answer from him. I told him if he rejected me, just say it now to prevent any false hope from occurring. But he was insisting that everything would be fine and that our relationship was a maybe and that the answer would come with time. To me, because I have never really had great experiences with other girls, they tend to attack me (both literally and mentally) because of their insecurities and how they felt I was taking away their man. I honestly act the way I normally act towards any other person, just an overall friendly manner. But now I just don’t know what to do. I am afraid of going through the same thing I did in the past and it just brings so many scarring memories. But at the same time, I care and trust E. It’s so weird and now I don’t know what to do. And we have our next weekly talk next saturday and I just don’t know if I want to even still converse with him.
    Any guidance on this scenario is greatly appreciated.

    #794066 Reply
    Lane

    You are young so I going to give you a “schooling on the hard knocks of life.” The one thing you need to start learning now, while your young is that you cannot control how other people think or feel! You are only in control of your thoughts, feelings, and actions but you cannot hold anyone else responsible or accountable to them just because they don’t feel the same way you do. He has every right to like this other lady the way HE wants to like her, no differently than he has many different levels of “like” or “love” with many other people in his life, which is wholly out of your control—he gets to chose it, not you.

    I have rejected 100’s of guys’s over many decades because I simply didn’t have any romantic feelings for them. They were just “friends” in my mind because that’s how I felt about them, and there was nothing they could say or do to change my mind because my mind was made up. On the flip side, many guy’s rejected me too but I didn’t get butt hurt over it, I accepted it, and moved on to a guy who didn’t—-makes relationships sooooooo much easier!

    Adulthood is full of a lot of rejections, so get used to it. You will be rejected in love; rejected in your professional life; rejected in your financial life; rejected in your personal life; rejected in your family life; etc. Life isn’t Burger King where you can’t have everything your way, and need to start preparing yourself for the really big/major rejections; whereas this is nothing but a teeny tiny drop in the big bucket of life disappointments.

    #794067 Reply
    Newbie

    You really have to hear what this guy is saying to you. He wants another girl. He only sees you as a friend. Its up to you if you want to be his friend or you keep dreaming on.
    He is telling you that if it doesnt work out with the other girl, he might get interested in you. Besides the fact he probably says this to soften the blow, dont you see how humiliating that is to you if you would really entertain this idea? Youre not his first best. Probably not second or third either. And you know what? Thats fine. You will have dozens of crushes that wont work out. And vice versa. I do recommend though to avoid getting in fantasy land but read articles on how to know a guy is interested and how to date.

    #794068 Reply
    Newbie

    Lol lane, a tiny drop in the big bucket of life disappointments. Youre having a bad day? But i do know the feeling

    #794069 Reply
    Lane

    Hi Newbie, not having a bad at all…finally getting a darn day off :o)

    I was just telling the OP that him not liking her back the same way is but a teeny tiny disappointment out of many she will have over a lifetime.

    #794071 Reply
    Kaitlyn Ng

    thanks newbie thanks lane
    I guess i just have one other question then.
    So the guy just texted me about our plans for his birthday and he still insists that I make him his favorite cake and then meet up half-way to give it to him. Additionally, whenever we get back to college he said that he wanted me to paint his nails (for fun), but both of these things are just between me and him. Is this considered awkward in just a small degree if he truly like another girl right now?

    #794073 Reply
    Newbie

    Yeah its weird, but that still doesnt mean he likes you more than a friend. You can do girlfriendly things for him all day long, it wont make you his gf. I mean: he wants you to bake him a cake and deliver it half way? Sorry but this is not good. I have a feeling he is playing with your feelings. I would be too busy to bake him a cake and do someting else fun for you thing to do. In general: never go please a guy who is not your bf. Even my man doesnt like it when i do too much. He likes to do things for me instead

    #794074 Reply
    Newbie

    You really have to learn to love yourself first. You ask a guy who is not into you of he needs space from you, distance from you etc. Come on girl, youre not on the planet to act like that. You need to stand up for yourself. Right now i would end the confusion with a: Hi E, you know i like you but since that is not mutual i need time for myself and space from you, so that maybe later i can be your friend. You really need to distance yourself from him for yourself

    #794076 Reply
    Jo

    I really hope the use of “insists” is due to a language issue.

    #794081 Reply
    Lane

    Agree with Newbie that he is only seeing you as “a friend.” Listen he likes you, likes hanging out with you, likes talking to you but he doesn’t want to romance you which is what a man does when he likes a lady that way.

    I don’t think its possible for you to be his “friend” based on how you feel about him, and he feels about you. The best thing to do in this situation is to pull way back so to cool your emotions, and stop try audition for his ‘girlfriend’ as its the man’s job to show you what a great BF he would make! That man will go all out to show you when he really really likes a lady, and that’s he best dynamic to go into it with.

    Know this: “GIVING” is the MALE ENERGY, and “RECEIVING” is the FEMALE ENERGY. (Look it up) When you take on the male energy, and do the giving (initiating, calling, doing things for the man), it does not attract them but makes you look/appear ‘clingy’, especially if over done, so don’t start or go down that road. Be the feminine energy, and you’ll attract more guys. As an FYI, I’m a female Alpha, and even I know how to use my feminine wiles (energy) to attract men without having to do anything but show up, be appreciative for what they do, step back, and allow them to continue doing the work to capture my heart, because I captured his. Keep meeting/dating men, and you’ll figure it out when a guy is crushing on you :o)

    #794082 Reply
    Kaitlyn Ng

    lane and newbie
    thank you so much. I really appreciate the advice. I will do just that. Ur right I should love myself and take a step back. I guess i really am naïve about what actual love and romance really is at a basic level.

    #794086 Reply
    Ss

    He has basically told you that you are the back up girl- gross! You don’t want to be *that* girl!!

    You cannot be friends with someone you want more with its just not possible because you’ll be analysing all the time everything he does that might mean he likes you more.

    He is going to take all you give him because he is getting a gf experience whilst waiting for the other girl.

    You need to take newbies advice. Nicely tell him you need space and take that space to work him out of your system. Seriously you deserve so much more and he knows it.

    Take the control back and let him feel the loss of you. I don’t think it will change much but he will know that you are not for playing with.

    Good luck xx

    #794089 Reply
    Newbie

    Kaitlin, youre not so much naive but too friendly. I said this in many other posts, read the book why men love b*tches. No woman in that book is going to bake a cake for non bf. Take care and good luck😄

    #794090 Reply
    Newbie

    And for future reference:.real romance is weird. Like lane said, you dont need to lift a finger except showing up. Its really true.

    #794091 Reply
    Kaitlyn Ng

    thank you newbie, i think i will read that book, since we are still in quarantine and thank you Ss for responding to my post. Yeah, I never really thought of it that way, being a back-up person for someone else, it kinda makes me feel stupid for not seeing that coming. but now i think everyone is right i do need to focus more on myself

    #794093 Reply
    Ss

    Don’t feel stupid. It happens all the time and this is just your first experience of this. You’ll know for next time.

    I echo the recommendation for why men love bi**ches. It really explains why being the *nice girl* is just not going to help you in dating. It doesn’t mean you really be a bi**h it just tells you about valuing yourself and not playing to a guys tune.

    Men aren’t bad – but they will milk whatever is on offer if you let them. The key word is YOU. You need to value yourself and not play the nice girl because if you bend over backwards for a guy that isn’t your boyfriend they are going to keep pushing to see how much they can get. At least this guy hasn’t gone the sex/fwb route!

    #794197 Reply
    Kaitlyn Ng

    thank you so much Ss

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