Does this count as a one-night-stand? Bad Texter and No Dates & met on Tinder


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    Roxy

    New Years Eve, i decided to take charge of my life and become someone who takes more risks in her dating and relationships. . . So i downloaded a Tinder. I know, maybe not the best move, but I was curious about it.
    Two days later, one of my matches messages me and we have an actual conversation. He even continues talking after i tell him that I’m not a random hookup/casual sex kinda girl. When i ask him why he’s on Tinder, he tells me that he just moved to L.A., didn’t know anyone, and was bad at making connections with people. He also told me that to be honest, if casual sex or a relationship was to emerge from Tinder, he wouldn’t complain.
    After a little more chatting, he asks me if it would be weird if he invited me over for an “impromtu wine tasting.” I told him that it wouldn’t be “weird,” per se, but it did sound like he wanted to invite me over, get me drunk, bang, and maybe murder me; I dunno.
    So finally, after asking him some screening questions (is he an axe murderer = no. Will other people be there? = yes.) i ask him if he’s invited other girls from Tinder to his house, and he says no, because “he doesn’t invite girls over who he’s trying to sleep with,” since he’s weird about that. He also tells me that if he was just after sex, that “sex isn’t so hard to find that i need to get a girl drunk to get it.” Which, I found to be a very honest and valid point.
    So fast forward, i’m in his car, and this dude is EXTREMELY ATTRACTIVE, and somehow nothing is weird between us regardless of having met on TINDER, and we IMMEDIATELY hit it off.
    He claims to be honest sometimes to the point of bluntness, and i tell him that it is really difficult to offend me.
    We go back to his place, chat with his roommate for half an hour, and then we sit down in the kitchen and he actually gives me the whole low-down on wines. Like, in depth, and in between, we’re talking about ourselves, and psychology, and race and religion and everything (I’m a black woman, he’s a white guy. I’m 20, he’s 26).
    Practically most if not the entire time, we’re joking and laughing with each other, smiling, and having a blast. He makes allusions to seeing me in the future and doing certain activities with me when we see each other again. He compliments my eyes and tries to play with my hair, and he looked like he had gotten embarrassed when his roommate came in to tell us that she was going to sleep.
    Now we’re both a little drunk, and we decide to make a pizza, during which is when a LOT of flirting via playful touching and banter and joking happens. Finally, after a while he kisses me. . . A LOT.
    It gets a little passionate and intense, and the guy begins to try and put his hands up my dress. So i pull away a bit and we laugh, and i notice the time, and so i try to make some moves to leave. He makes a face and doesn’t want me to go, which is when i remind him that I’m not going to sleep with him tonight. He tells me that he knows, and he respects my decision even though he wouldn’t mind if that happened between us. He said that he was just enjoying spending time with me.
    Fast forward even more, we’re drunk, and it’s close to three am, and i end up fooling around with him some more, but still no sex, and i attempt to leave AGAIN, yet he’s reluctant to let me go. Somehow i FALL ASLEEP, and wake up to a text at 7:00 am.
    We both wake up, fool around a little more (still no sex), and i ask him to drive me back home instead of me taking a Lyft cab, and he complies with little resistance.

    So now, I’m in his car the next day after i first meet him, feeling super insecure, and i ask “So, how is this supposed to work? Am i gonna go home and then never see/hear from you again or. . .?”
    And at first he answers jokingly, but takes my hand in his while he drives me home. We spend the car ride chatting and laughing and joking some more, but my insecurities come back, and i ask him the same question because he never really answered it.
    He says “You know, you asked me that question already. Do guys do that to you often?” And I responded “Well I just don’t know because I’ve never done this kind of thing before!”
    And so he laughs and tells me that most guys would have bailed after the whole fooling around and no sex thing if that was all they wanted. So i left it at that and we enjoyed the rest of the car ride together.
    We get to my house, and we sit outside in his car, and we talk for like, half an hour. During that conversation with me, he kisses me three times, and puts his forehead against mine and keeps it there for a few moments EACH TIME HE DOES IT.
    The last time he did the whole kiss-forehead-touching thing to me, I sighed and told him “okay. I like you.”
    When i left his car, he didn’t say anything about seeing me next time or whatever, but i ignored it because of the awesomeness of the kind-of-date that we’d had.

    HERE IS WHERE I AM CONFUSED.

    1.) Hours after he dropped me off, he unmatched me from Tinder.

    2.) he texted me two days later while i was at work, telling me that he’d been sick, but still asked me how i was doing. We had a brief convo, but then I had to go because my break was over, but i told him i’d text him after i got out.
    I texted him like i said i would, but he never responded.

    3.) two days later, he replies to the last text i sent him, and when i replied to that, he didn’t respond.

    4.) I initiate a text two days after that, and he responds quickly, and he tells me he still feels sick, and we have a slightly longer but still not long convo, before he drops off the face of the Earth again, and I KNOW i hadn’t said anything weird.

    5.) It’s going on four days since we’ve contacted one another.

    So guys, I probably do sound like a crazy person, but i’ve just been hurt a lot in the past, and i’d much rather cut my losses early on, than invest in something emotionally if the guy isn’t interested in me back, or is pulling away, or whatever.
    The reason why i gave a lot of details, is that anyone reading knows the whole picture.
    I don’t know if he’s just a bad texter, or is still sick, or has lost interest, but it’s terrible, because our first meeting was so much fun, and i thought we clicked so well, and i was so optimistic about it because it honestly seemed too good to be true. I just want to know if it was a one-time thing or if there’s something there.
    Basically, I’m at a loss on how to proceed. Do I call him or initiate a text again? Do I wait for him contact me since he left the conversation, first? Do I try and forget about the whole thing and pretend like it wasn’t the best date I’d ever had with someone who i thought i could ACTUALLY connect with on all possible levels?
    Please, someone shed some light on my situation.

    #391067 Reply
    Jojo

    Ok let me start by saying I am not trying to offend you with what I’m going to comment but I think this is a time to be blunt. If I have read this right you matched the guy on tinder, had a brief text exchange that same night then agreed to go to the guys house. A man you have never met before. A man you know absolutely nothing about. This is absolute crazy, risky behaviour. Not risky fun behaviour, risky he may have raped and killed you behaviour. Really Roxy can you see what position you potentially put yourself in? I repeat you knew nothing about this man and went to his home knowing nothing about him or who else might have been there. You’ve got to be more careful seriously!

    Now regarding your other questions- It seems this guy only wanted to hook up from his lack of response since this night. Going over to someones house the same night you meet is not a date in my book, others may disagree. You repeatedly said you did not want a one night stand but from what you have written, aside from actual intercourse, that’s exactly what you have here. I would be very surprised if anything comes from this or if you hear anymore from this guy for anything other than a late night booty call.

    I see that you are only 20 and probably not had that much experience but you really need to clue yourself up. If you want to make a serious connection with a man based not just on sex this is not the way to do it. Read some of the articles here, read some of the forum comments and for heaven’s sake never meet a man off the internet and go over to his home in the middle of the night when you have never met in person or know anything about him again please. It is so dangerous.

    #391071 Reply
    Maria

    Hi Roxy,

    I think you need to step back and let your emotions cool down a little. I understand how you feel right now and I know it’s hard – been there a million times myself. What really helped me was realizing what infatuation is and what it does to you. There’s a great article about it here on ANM, you should definitely look it up. The point is: you meet someone great, you feel insane chemistry and all of a sudden you have all these expectations about him and about the two of you. What you don’t see in the heat of the moment is that it’s all in your head, it’s all EXPECTATIONS. You simply don’t know after one date if you could “connect on all possible levels” or really want a relationship with a guy. You’re blinded by the crush, in other words, infatuated. That’s why you need to cool off now.

    As other posters will probably explain in more detail, at this point the woman should always be the one being chased. So do not chase him – do not contact him, if he wants to spend time with you, he will contact you. If he doesn’t, it wasn’t meant to be. And don’t just sit around waiting for him but go on with other activities in your life. Make sure you’re enjoying life as it is, with or without a guy, and you won’t even notice you’re “waiting” for him to contact you (because actually you’re not!). I’m afraid if he keeps texting you every now and then but goes MIA in the middle of a convo or doesn’t ask you out, he’s not serious. Time will tell. Good luck!

    #391073 Reply
    Maria

    Ok, I was hesitant to say it but Jojo just posted what I was thinking while I was writing my own post. If a guy asks you to go to his house this early on, he generally IS after sex no matter what he says. You fooled around him and now he may be thinking it will lead into something more next time (or the time after etc.). If he reaches out to you and wants to see you again, don’t say yes unless it’s a proper date in a public place. Otherwise you’ll just be setting yourself up as a booty call. And you can’t sex your way into a relationship (if a real relationship is what you really want). Good luck!

    #391075 Reply
    Stefanie

    Roxy, when someone deletes you hours after you meet, there is nothing to be confused about… he is NOT interested. This one isn’t going anywhere, leave him alone.

    The other girls have already pointed out how dangerous going to his house was, please don’t EVER do that again.

    In the future when you go on a date, you thank him and leave. And then it’s up to him to contact you. Don’t chase. Don’t ask him if he likes you or if you’re going to see each other again. Your job on the date is to be pleasant, have fun and evaluate if you have enough in common according to YOUR standards for you to be even remotely interested. YOU are doing the choosing, YOU are the prize. Never forget that.

    #391078 Reply
    Sassperilla

    Ok Tinder might be a whole different kettle of fish in a big glamorous city like LA but I have only ever had positive experiences with it. I have been on 4 real dates, 2 out of those 4 have been the start of something, the other 2 were left after a friendly first date. To me it’s normal dating. I weed out the guys who open with obvious just after sex lines, do not reply to creeps, only arrange dates with men I have real phone numbers for and have established dialogue with. First date is ALWAYS a coffee in daylight in a busy public place. I make my own way there and back. I NEVER tell them where I live, I do not add them on FB, I don’t tell them my second name until at least date 2…

    Any other kind of approach is a straight up hook up for sex only and you’d be naive to think otherwise.

    Forget this one, but stay on Tinder and take your time with it instead of diving straight in with your first match!

    #391082 Reply
    Jojo

    Great post Sassperilla. Roxy- follow this advise for tinder in the future it is spot on.

    #391083 Reply
    Jess

    Hi Roxy.

    As the girls have said, you really shouldn’t give much thought to this one. You said you don’t want to invest emotionally if the guy isn’t interested back. It seems to me like there’s nothing to invest at all since you don’t know the guy and just had that one “date”. You’re still very young (I’m not much older mind you) so you’ll have plenty of opportunities to meet other awesome guys that are genuinely interested in you. Don’t settle for the first thing that comes your way, it looks like that’s what you did here. Yes, the guy may have been great, yes, the guy may have been very attractive but he wasn’t your only option so don’t stress over his absence. His presence wasn’t important in your life a couple of days ago and he never contributed anything to your life, so why should his absence bother you so much? It shouldn’t! Follow Sassperilla’s advice on using Tinder, it was great. Keep swiping left and right and have fun. He’s probably doing the same and not even giving you second thoughts. Respect yourself and know your worth.

    #391116 Reply
    Ivy

    Do not contact him again and move on. Go out on dates, don’t accept house dates with men you don’t know.

    “New Years Eve, i decided to take charge of my life and become someone who takes more risks in her dating and relationships.”

    The kind of risk in dating is to take down your barriers to love and get out and meet more men and date, not meet a guy on an app, believe everything he says cause you know everyone tells the truth 100% of the time, especially someone you don’t know, then go over to his house, and get physical with him.

    I don’t advise to go over to a man’s house that you don’t know. Also, it’s clear that he is not pursuing you and I would take any offense to that. You need to savy up on the online dating and weed out men who just want sex. If you want to date, date first.

    It’s ok though, you were a bit naive but you really do have to get out of naive mode or you put yourself at risk for men who will take advantage of you. This guy drove you home cause he hoped he might still have the chance at going all the way with you.

    Take the hint from him unmatching you and move on.

    #391155 Reply
    Roxy

    Alright, guys. I hear you all loud and clear.

    Jojo, lemme just say that i never went into anything without my mace and taser that night (which doesn’t REALLY mean anything at all, i know), and that i NEVER do this, nor do i ever plan to do this again. Ever. Under any circumstances. I am aware it was dangerous, and i know i was lucky not to be killed. I VERY HIGHLY appreciate your blunt honesty. It’s what i definitely needed. So don’t ever stop doing that.

    Sassperilla, thank you for helping me with the whole Tinder thing. It’s good to know that not all the guys there are complete creeps.

    Maria, Jess, Stephanie, Ivy, guys, THANK YOU for clearing up the signs to me, reassuring me of my own self-worth, and giving me advice on how to proceed, now. I genuinely appreciate that you guys took the time to help me and my stupid ass break through the haze of infatuation to see some logic.

    So. As of right now, i’m taking all of your advices, and moving forward and not expecting anything from this dude at all. I’ll keep going on my dating path, and never ever ever ever go to a guy whom I just met’s house for a “date.”

    Thank you again, every one!

    #391161 Reply
    Kelley

    Roxy,
    As others stated, the first couple of meetings should be in public places as an axe-murderer isn’t going to admit that he is one. For the serial killers to kill so many they had to be pleasant. When I meet any new guy online, I get his name and some information about him that way you can google it and see if any dirt is dug up on them. I always get age and cities as these days a girl cannot be too careful especially when meeting men online.

    Give up on that one and never pursue or chase any guy by calling them or texting them first. If they do not pursue you then they are only interested in hookups.

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