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Queenie
Hey all.
I mentioned in a previous post about setting the pace and how the guy I’m seeing has just as much (if not more) obligations regarding his children (he’s got them 100%, I’m 70%).
Anyways, he was away all last week with his kids on vaca, and I was away all this week til Tuesday. While he was away, he texted every day, called multiple times to chat, all was good. When I was away, I had very little service, but I did text him daily / send pics and he always responded enthusiastically. I came home Tuesday, and just sent our usual ‘how was your day’ and ‘I’d love to see you next weekend’ text. No response from him til last night, which read “I’m so sorry I’m away on business til Friday and it’s been crazy. And my weekend is packed I’m sorry”.
The way I read it was, I’m busy but also am making no effort to see you. Am I jumping the gun assuming that? I do like him and how much our values and priorities aligned, but now I’m feeling slighted. I think it was T that said, “if a guy wants to see you, he’ll make the time”. And I kinda feel like he’s not even trying now. Put me in my place ladies. It’s been 3 weeks (given we were on vaca for 2) and now I won’t be available for another week. I’m thinking, not to focus anymore time on him, but a tiny piece of me is skeptical.AngieBaby
Relax.
You’re dealing with a man who has his kids 100% of the time. You’ve only known him a few weeks. You can’t expected to be the top priority. He’s contacting you regularly. You’re getting ahead of the situation.
T from NY
It is a fact that if a man is truly interested – he will make a way to see you. This guy is tepid. If he really liked you he wouldn’t do this. OR even if he likes you, he’s not in the mindset for a REAL relationship. 3 weeks no contact without MASSIVE apologies and explanations or chagrin on his part would be a dealbreaker for me. You have to get quiet with you and figure out if this is enough for you.
Remember the mantra – when a guy focuses on HIM, get to focusing on YOU.
Queenie
Just for clarification Angie, we’ve been “dating” since elate June, only seen each other about 2 times a month because of our obligations with our kids, but talk regularly.
Agreed that he seems tepid, and that’s disappointing, but this is life I guess. I don’t want to chase anyone. He made himself seem enthusiastically happy involved, but seems he’s not making much effort to progress. So I think I already know, let it go, because I have little time to spare, and I’m willing to make an effort, but only if the effort is mutual.AngieBaby
“Anyways, he was away all last week with his kids on vaca, and I was away all this week til Tuesday. While he was away, he texted every day, called multiple times to chat, all was good. When I was away, I had very little service, but I did text him daily / send pics and he always responded enthusiastically.”
Not three weeks no contact T.
Guy’s making an decent effort. Chill out a little and cut him a break about this weekend Queenie.
AngieBaby
OK Queenie – then you already made up your mind and I guess you were just posting for confirmation.
Queenie
With this weekend of no physical date it’ll be 4 weeks, and I won’t be able to see him again for at least another week +. So I guess I’m disappointed. He knows my schedule, and I understand his. But he has an advantage that his children are teens and has left them alone for dates with me just for a cpl hours. So I just feel like he’s reduced his effort, and I don’t want to be the only person perusing…
Queenie
I haven’t made up my mind, because I really did like his company, so I was just seeking another perspective. Thank you for yours, I appreciate an outsiders opinion
Queenie
I haven’t yet responded to his apologetic text, because I’m not sure what to say. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt but also don’t want to give the wrong impression. I guess I’ll just let sleeping dogs lie and go on about my business and if he reaches out again soon, idk.
Thanks for your opinions and advice :)Anon
Agree with T- step way back and see if he pursues. It doesn’t take much effort to let you know what he’s up to with a business trip this week and he waited that long to get back to you suggests he’s not really focused on pursuing a relationship. Just see what he does- no more reaching out.
Liz Lemon
You’re talking it will be 5 weeks total without seeing each other in person, right? (Since you’re not available next week). And his kids are teens, so in theory could be left alone so you could grab a meal together. So having his kids 100 percent of the time isn’t quite the barrier it seems to be.
I have to agree with T from NY. This guy seems tepid. It’s telling that you feel he’s reduced his effort– at this stage (2+ months) you should feel his effort increasing. He may not have the time or headspace to date. But I’d think if he’s dating someone 2+ months and he wants things to progress, he’d make effort to see the person he’s dating after 3+ weeks, even if it was just for a few hours (which he can feasibly do since his kids are teens).
Anyway, at this rate things will progress very slowly, if at all. It’s up to you if you want to give this guy more time. But I totally understand where you’re coming from & would be very frustrated with this situation.
Liz Lemon
Also agree with Anon that him taking 24+ hours to reply to your text on Tuesday isn’t indicative of a man focused on a relationship.
Maddie
I’m with Angie that he sounds busy rather than is blowing you off. I’d cut him some slack instead of assuming the most negative scenario here. But. If things are not progressing at a speed that works for you or you want a partner who has more time for you, this does seem to be his typical schedule and availability… so that’s a reason to back off and possibly call it quits if it’s not meeting your needs. In this case, I don’t think you need to call it quits proactively because you think he’s not that into you after overlapping travel, though. But you should ask yourself if he can give you what you want, and look elsewhere if the answer is no.
Liz Lemon
I wouldn’t say he’s blowing her off either, because that’s actively choosing to reject her. But I do think she’s low on his list of priorities. I agree that she should decide if this pace works for her.
I’ll add, as a single mom whose kid is in college now…dating when your kid is a teen is very easy. At least it was for me, and other single moms I know. This guy isn’t stuck at home with toddlers. He can’t grab breakfast with her Saturday or Sunday morning before his kids get up? Or whatever. Just some effort to connect. That’s why I said this guy doesn’t seem to be in the headspace for a relationship. Or at least, he can’t give her what she needs.
AngieBaby
Lots of good perspectives and advice here.
if it were me I wouldn’t respond to that text, next move is his. I’d cut him a break over this weekend and also lean back. He should be stepping up next week if he’s really that interested.
But, you may not be looking for the same level of engagement and that’s what you may now be seeing. I know guys with kids who want companionship but not a full-blown serious relationship leading to living together or marriage.
Ultimately Queenie you have to go with your own gut instincts.
Liz Lemon
AngieBaby is right, there are divorced guys with kids out there who don’t want a full blown relationship, just companionship on their terms, when they have free time. It brings to mind the other poster we mentioned to you before Queenie, who had been dating her boyfriend for 3 years, and things were going nowhere, in fact they were regressing….the guy was busy with his kids and it was clear he didn’t want to escalate the relationship or make room in his life for the OP.
I think leaning back and seeing what this guy does is good advice. I stand by what I said before, that the guy should start prioritizing you at least somewhat (kids or no) if this is going to go anywhere. He needs to start actively fitting you into his life (that means making time to see you), and not just seeing you when he has nothing else going on. Ultimately you will have to decide if his pace is to your liking.
T from NY
Excuse my typo – 3 weeks no PHYSICAL contact would be unacceptable to me this early on unless there were extenuating circumstances. Now I’m reading it will be more time than that if, and when, y’all hang out again. I disagree he seems more busy than blowing her off. Busy is a euphemism men use when they aren’t interested enough. And who cares he’s texting and calling every day UNLESS the woman wants a virtual relationship?
I don’t mean to be harsh. It’s just I am done, and encouraging all other women to be done, making excuses for men. If you listen to MALE dating coaches they are much more simple and direct. If a man likes – he.will.ask.you.out. To see him. In person.
And I am soft with men these days if they begin to act tepid. Because I trust in the universe the following things will always present themselves. 1 -People show you who they are. 2 -There is no scarcity of love in my life because I have enough for myself and 3 -What’s meant for me will not pass me by. I wish you the same peace.
T from NY
Soft with the men – as I release them back to the universe – that is 😊
Gaia
Hi Queenie!
Hope you are doing well outside of this tepid guy. I agree wholeheartedly with T. I’d pull way back with this guy and see if he comes around. If he doesn’t it wasn’t that much of a loss.From what I’m reading it seems like you’ve really only been on 4-6 dates and now have had a 4-5 week schedule/travel/busy conflict. One thing I did learn in my last relationship was that if a man is busy it is just a polite way of saying “too busy to make time for you.” Sometimes it takes hindsight to see it. Don’t make excuses for this guy.
Men are amazing at juggling time and things if they want to put in the effort to see you.
Kathy
T from New York, I agree with all things you said. What do you mean you are “soft” with men these days if they begin to act tepid?
Kathy
T.. I just read your recent response.. I see :)..
Liz Lemon
Agree wholeheartedly with Gaia and T from NY. Plus, this guy’s kids are teens. They’re probably not even home half the time– at friends’ houses and all that. My teen was always out and about, and always glad when I left him at home alone for a few hours– he liked the little taste of independence (it’s very exciting to have the house to yourself and cook your own frozen pizza when you’re 14, LOL). So unless his kids have special needs, I can’t believe they would be this much of a barrier to seeing you.
Queenie
I agree with you all, and thank you for your viewpoints. While he may be “interested” he’s not interested enough to put forth any real effort besides texting / calling. I’m not interested in a virtual relationship. I want in person connection too. That’s why I started doubting his intentions/ interest when he just gave an excuse that his weekend was packed, etc.
Additionally, while I haven’t responded to his apology, he also hasn’t reached out at all since. So I’m thinking it’s time to just move on. It’s too bad, but like Angie said, maybe he’s just not in the right headspace to actually attempt progressing a relationship and just wants companionship virtually. This is counter to what we’ve discussed briefly, that him and I eventually are seeking a serious relationship (not us, just generally speaking), and his continued virtual contact. But I think the writings on the wall. And I don’t want to be hanging around waiting for him to ask me out again.
Thanks again all! I hope everyone has been well and has a wonderful weekend!Queenie
Some of you may remember that I came out of an abusive marriage and am still being emotionally abused by my ExH. I’ve worked through my issues of letting men get away with way too much, (I’m not comparing this to that at all) but I do still question myself from time to time. It helps hearing what others think, and reassures my gut. I wish I found you all years ago! Lol
But thank you again, for always giving your honest opinions and feedback.AngieBaby
Queenie, that’s a well-thought out decision. If he said he’s interested in serious and acting like this, then after 8 weeks I agree it’s time to say sayonara and move on. Maybe he’s gone now if he hasn’t said a thing since that and you haven’t responded. If he does ever reach out again, just say it’s obvious you are in different headspaces where it comes to relationship and it was nice to have spent some time with him.
I know your story. You’ve been through a lot. It is very courageous to keep putting yourself out there. We are Team Queenie and rooting for you here.
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