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  • #930005 Reply
    Bird

    Have been dating a guy for a while now, 4-6 months. Meeting more than 3 days a week. It was going fine. However, one day I was having an emotional breakdown. And he called me. He really wanted me to vent out if I trusted him and if I felt like venting it out. I was hesitating a little as I have lately turned into an introvert. But I went ahead and took the plunge as i felt he was trustworthy. He came over. I was in tears as I explained my traumas to him and deeply personal things. I have a lot of problems in opening up but I did. Now comes the moment, I was trying to highlight the importance of an event and I ended up saying “just suppose your mother dies” and then I thought it sounds weird, so I immediately tried to cover that up saying “supposed some loved one of yours dies”. He listened to everything and sympathised. Then left. Then a day later, he told me in instagram that he wants to tell me something that is eating him up since the day we had that talk. So I told him yes call me. Then he pointed to that comment about the mother and said that hearing that he has been feeling extremely shaken and sad. I was quite taken aback. I mean I know it might have been unnecessary and insensitive but I did realise that and tried to cover it up by a more generic statement, but really how bad was it? It was totally clear that I did not say it with any ill intention. Then why did he have to bring it up? Out of my one hour long trauma story, only a random comment about his mother “shook” him up? And tbh I really don’t feel good about it. He said he is not making an issue about it but that he feels very bad even hearing such things about his loved ones. I just feel like this gives me vibes of “mamas boy” and a need to make things about you when they are not. I mean when you clearly know that the other person means no harm by saying somethinglike that and probably said it in the flow of emotions/sadness then why even get bothered by it. I don’t want to be associated with someone door who I have to walk on eggshells and be mindful of what is coming out of my mouth. Or am I being insensitive and not taking his point into consideration?

    #930009 Reply
    Lane

    I don’t believe it was that particular comment but in general—you are trying to compare what is going on with you with the death of someone. I too would be like WTH, how can you make such a comparison and I would seriously be wondering how deep the issues really are with you.

    My partner at or about our 4th or 5th month mark told me about the childhood abuse he suffered from his step-father. To be honest, it freaked me out as it was IMO “too early” to get “that deep.” It made me pull back because I didn’t know if he was warning me or something so it kind of shook me up a bit. I didn’t say anything but trust me, I watched him more closely as I wasn’t sure if, or how much, it played into his current life? The good thing is he was able to overcome it, and is a really kind, loving and good man (opposite of his step-father) but it would have been much better if he had reserved that convo. to a later time, until I figured that out for myself first.

    I believe you dumping all your “trauma’s” on him has freaked him out. In your attempt to try and create some “closeness” you may have ended up scaring him away? I would advise you to just “let it go” and see what he does next. I have found the best thing to do is to not bring it up again (aka “rehashing”), as that just keeps it in the forefront of a man’s mind, which isn’t what you want, so silence (letting it go and never bringing it up again) is often the best remedy in these cases.

    #930010 Reply
    Bird

    Lane- I think you got me wrong here. I wasn’t oversharing. He knew it is about my childhood traumas and other things. And that’s why I didn’t want to share. He had been trying to get me to share all that as he was the one who wanted all that closeness, not me. He isn’t at all scared or overwhelmed with what I shared and didn’t feel it was too much. He really specifically just talked about that one comment. Nothing else. Please atleast try to understand my question. It isn’t about “his” feelings. It is about “my” feelings. I feel weird that he feels shaken by my comment on a loved one. Read my post again. I am not even bothered about scaring him as that’s not the issue here, he has already shared way more serious stuff with me. We are okay that way. It was just this comment that got him “shaken”.

    I made that statement in reference to the fact that he said you should just forget all this trauma and move on. Then I said suppose if your mother dies, no suppose if someone close to you dies, and it traumatises you, you can’t just forget about it. With time maybe you can let it stop affecting you, but you can’t forget about it as Human emotions and memory don’t work that way.i know I could have used any other example but ok I slipped up but I don’t think it was that big a slip up.

    So please answer in that context: was his comment justified or not? Or does it point to deeper issues in his personality? The question is not that whether I scared him away. He isn’t scared or overwhelmed. He is very much here. I on the other hand am feeling scared away by him for being so sensitive to his issues which don’t even exist..

    #930011 Reply
    Lane

    And as a side note: I don’t think its him who has the “red flags” but you. He expressed how he felt and you cared more about your *feelings* than his. TBH, I don’t think you should be dating and should deal with your “traumas” through a qualified therapist so you don’t feel the need to “vent” on a guy because you’ve solved or resolved those issues. Just my two cents.

    #930013 Reply
    Lane

    His feelings are just as valid as yours are, so YES, his comment is justified based on how he received/interpreted the information. I interpreted it the same way he did, so maybe it’s in how you communicate emotions or feelings to others, not in how they receive it?

    #930014 Reply
    Bird

    Okay. Thanks. However, again, I do see a therapist. He knew about that too. He knows about the depth of my issues already. If that is a red flag he can already leave, I never kept him in the dark. He was always curious about that and what is going on with me. And wanted to be part of my problems, hence asked me vent if I wanted to, and I know he wanted to hear..he keeps asking me let him know it all just the way he does. So that isn’t the issue. Let it be. Maybe I am not able to bring forth my point properly. It’s just that I listen to him nicely when he talks about something personal and sad and don’t make it about myself that you used this word and that phrase. I let him be. It would have been nice if he had also let me be when it was his turn to just listen and not pick up a phrase I used and make it about his mother. I am considerate about his . My post is about his comment and whether I should be bothered about it. Is it normal for a boyfriend to feel shaken up by suc h a thing, I feel it’s odd and it is more along the lines of:”nobody gets to talk like that about my loved ones”..because if it is this, I would unhesitatingly tell him to part ways because I did not disrespect his loved ones and I can’t be with someone who picks little things and tries to pinpoint that you are wrong. That’s all. It’s Not about the oversharing bit.

    #930015 Reply
    Lane

    I seriously don’t see why his response has you in such a tizzy? You even admitted it was in *poor taste* and then even went as far to re-frame it, poorly again. to make it more palatable. Maybe you should try taking responsibility for your own words, instead of punishing him for something you said.

    OK be right in your belief that he’s a “bad guy” and dump him. Problem solved.

    #930016 Reply
    Bird

    Hmmm. That got me thinking. So this bothers me a little because it’s a cultural thing. In my country a girl and a guy marry and the girls goes lives with the guy and his family. And there are lots of domestic violence cases relating to abuse and they particularly come from such men who are of the mentality that nobody dare say things to my mother, you are just a wife my mother is the owner of the house and a lot of such drama around mother in law and daughter in law. I think you are right. Maybe I read too much into it.

    #930017 Reply
    mama

    Maybe your analogy didn’t land the way you think it did. Maybe give him a little space and let yourself calm down before speaking to him again. You can talk it out with him then.

    And to be honest, you sound like you want him to react a certain way and it’s frustrating you that he isn’t. You are also getting a bit terse with Lane because he/she didn’t answer you the way you wanted them to. You can’t control other peoples’ reactions. People are going to be themselves, and you have to let them feel what they’re going to feel, and react however they want. It’s not right or wrong.

    You just have to decide if those reactions are acceptable to you and if they aren’t then you can talk to him and air out your differences or let him go. He’s not going to change and neither are you.

    #930018 Reply
    Lane

    I don’t see it that way. You used a very bad example and for some reason it stuck in his head and he couldn’t get the thought out. I don’t know what his relationship with his mother is like but based on his response I would see it as a natural response for someone who would be “shaken” at the thought of losing their mother. I just think you hit a sensitive nerve or soft spot, nothing more, nothing less.

    #930021 Reply
    Bird

    Yeah that is what I meant. I wrote what I wouldn’t be ok with: him feeling shaken by a one second blip about his own, I see that as selfish. I was just having trouble interpreting if it is that or not. I am not trying to control how he reacts, I am trying to understand what he actually meant and if you guys feel he is justified. To which you guys think he is justified in feeling whatever he feels, as his feelings are equally important. To me that sounds fair enough too. And as for lane I was just trying to frame my question in a way I can actually express what I am trying to say as English isn’t my first language, and yes I would like to get as many opinions as possible, the more the merrier, so I pressed it little, wasn’t trying to control.

    #930024 Reply
    Lane

    I think you blew this way out of context. Whenever I have a question, or I see someone is struggling with something I either: 1) ask the person to clarify, or 2) apologize for making then feel bad. This could have been easily clarified, on your end, by doing one of two things:

    By asking him: “May I ask why it shook you so much?” so to give him the opportunity to explain or clarify it, instead of you playing mind detective.

    OR

    Telling him: “I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to upset you. I agree that was a very bad example and I shouldn’t have used it.” Then give him the opportunity to accept your apology or talk about it further.

    Its amazing how easy is to use communication to solve problems instead of creating them by not communicating.

    #930028 Reply
    Bird

    I have been in many manipulative and abusive relationships in the past and have been advised to start putting my feelings and needs ahead of my partner’s and to trust my gutto avoid getting into such relationships. That’s exactly what I was doing but you guys disapprove and want me to go back to my earlier pattern of ignoring my hurt feelings and tending to his. I don’t think recovery and healing wise that is the best course of action for me to take. I will discuss this with my therapist in the next session and then take some action

    #930030 Reply
    Maddie

    It sounds like you didn’t feel heard after being vulnerable and didn’t like his reaction. I don’t think it was a specific red flag on its own, if he heard you out when you were venting and waited a couple days to tell you you said something that triggered something in him, he may just not have had much to say about your issue because it wasn’t his place to do anything but listen. And just because he told you something got to him doesn’t mean it’s your responsibility to walk on eggshells — he said he was just letting you know, he didn’t ask you to change your behavior and regulate this issue for him, right? It may be a sign, however, that your communication styles don’t mesh and you’re not right for each other, but if you’ve been dating him for 4-6 months already you have had time to see if he has a pattern of dismissing you and making things all about him. Does he? Or was this the first time anything has happened that could be interpreted that way? Try not to project your other negative dating experiences on him, just see him as a clean slate, totally different guy from your exes when you think about the answer to that question. If the answer is yes, you’ve seen a pattern of examples, then trust yourself on it that it may not be what you’re looking for.

    He also may not be someone who maturely knows how to deal with and process thoughts of grief and death like that yet, especially if you’re both young.

    #930031 Reply
    Bird

    Thank you for your response Maddie. You are right about the not feeling heard bit and you pointed a lot of important points. No he doesn’t have this dismissive attitude towards me, this is the first time. And I think I am projecting my negative dating experiences on him and not looking him as a clean slate. Communication styles is a problem here.

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