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Angel
Went on a first date with this guy last week Sunday, he drove an hour to see me, he opened the car door for me etc. Anyways when the date ended we kissed a good kiss. The date ended good and the next day we made plans to see each other this Sunday. My thing is after we made arrangements the Monday we haven’t spoken and it’s Thursday, I am not tripping about that I have been busy and I know he is a lawyer. The thing that has me confused is that he unmatched me on Bumble and hasn’t said anything. I messaged him this morning if we are good for Sunday. Now I am not so sure if I am good for Sunday, I am confused 😖. Any advice? Am I overthinking?
Gaia
If he unmatched with you I’d say he isn’t interested. Probably just made those plans in the heat of the moment. Men don’t like to hurt a woman’s feelings so they will avoid saying things outright that might make you feel bad. Instead it seems he just unmatched with you which was the least confrontational way to let you down gently. It was just one date. Go out with other guys. Don’t make excuses for this guy either. If he wanted a follow up date, he’d have secured a time by now.
Liz Lemon
Yeah, Gaia is right. He is most likely talking to other women on the app (which is fine, that’s his right), and may have met someone he feels more of a connection with. I also think if he were interested he would not have been completely silent for 3 days. He would have at least been texting you to say hello.
Since you have already asked him about Sunday, all you can do now is sit back and see if he responds. Don’t contact him again. I suspect he won’t reply, or if he does he’ll make up an excuse. Don’t sweat it, it was only one date. If it doesn’t work out with him, just move on.
Angel
Yeah he left me on read, so I deleted his contact info. Imma keep it moving. But just having the decency.
Gaia
The decency to what? He unmatched. That was decent. Better than stringing you along for a longer period of time. He owes you no explanations nor you him since it was only 1 date.
I have a 3 day rule. If I don’t hear from a date within 72 hrs then I make the assumption that they aren’t interested and move on. It saves from me from wasting time, getting over invested, and over thinking.
Angel
Yeah, you are right Gaia, I guess I have always been in some type of relationship dating is new. Even the first guy I ever went on a date with on Bumble was kinda heading there, a relationship. But I will adapt that rule so I don’t waste my time.
Dex
This ones a hard no, sorry. You know I’m in your corner, it’s just this early on you should never have to wonder if he’s gonna leave you hanging- when they are interested they don’t just drop off with no explanation.
Also? Don’t be surprised if he zombies back out of nowhere in a few weeks or months (or even longer- ugh)-no matter what he says, all that means is it didn’t work out with whoever he dropped you for, and is hoping he can just pick up where he left off. Don’t let him- don’t just accept crumbs. Respect yourself and know your worth!
Maddie
I agree with you that it was totally rude. It’s one thing to have a nice date yet not set up anything else and fade off instead. That’s slightly disappointing but fine, nothing is owed. But in my opinion, making definite plans with someone you have no intention of keeping because you’re too uncomfortable to say no or to later on say you changed your mind is cowardly and immature. It’s happened to me before and will keep happening as long as there’s online dating, but see it as you dodged a bullet if you’re looking for someone who would actually use their words to communicate. Since he doesn’t! Plus, the biggest early dating red flag is words and actions not lining up, so there you go.
For your own sake, don’t put much stock in a good first date. You still don’t know the person at all, so the little positive actions he took on the date really don’t matter and aren’t worth the analysis. That’s the bit of overthinking. Your job in early dating is, did he meet your minimums of being a good and respectful person without obvious dealbreakers, and are you interested enough in getting to know him better to see him another time? (And, did he appropriately follow up and follow through to see you again?) That should help you flip the perspective to truly feel relieved that you’re not having your time wasted when you encounter situations like this. I’ve also had great first dates that have all been downhill from there once the guy started showing his true character, so it can take a little bit of time to gauge someone’s actual potential when you’re looking for a relationship. Enjoy the moment and the date, but wait before you see it as high potential.
I think you’ll be okay, but sometimes online dating can be frustrating because there’s a wide range of behaviors (including the flakes and zombies listed above) that are not all respectful. But that’s why you learn to let it roll off you because it’s nothing personal anyway. It’s just, next!
Angel
Thanks, guys for the wisdom. I was just baffled lol, this was a guy who texted 4 in the morning etc, the date was good, he texted couldn’t wait to see me again, let’s get a date as soon as possible. I agree with @Gaine in the tough love way like I really don’t know this guy and I should lessen expectations but @Maddie you are right I did dodge a bullet as
and I deserve more and when someone actually make a date they should not disappear. That tells a lot about his character especially since he is 23 years older than me. @Dex I will already move on and if he texted to go out this Sunday it’s a hell no. I know my worth but this dating thing has me confused, these men are the definition of actions speak louder than bullshhhh.AngieBaby
It’s very possible he had second thoughts about your age difference – 23 years older than you is very significant.
Might want to consider dating in your own age group. Relationships with that big of an age gap are tough to make work over the long haul, you struggle with having things in common.
Angel
We spoke about that and we both agreed there was no problem. As for dating, imma date them all, as long as we get along.
AngieBaby
Obviously he changed his mind about something after everything he said to you.
Good luck.
Ewa
it’s online dating, he probably went back home and had another 5 other women messaging him, it is how it works, unfortunately men and women these days are not brave enough to say sorry not for me , all the best . I did it in the past and the amount of abuse I got from guys, calling me names just for being honest etc I stopped telling them how I feel and simply never replied.
Sara
Online dating means there is a lot of competition with other women which means guys talk to and date multiple ladies.
One suggestion is to try and meet guys naturally, away from dating apps. Dog walking parks are good even if you don’t own a dog. Going into coffee shops, grocery stores and making eye contact with men also creates opportunities. That way if a guy likes you (and he’s not on dating apps – some don’t BTW) there aren’t all those other women to compete with.
Angel
Sara yea I was thinking that too because dating apps are pretty disappointing. I have a date tomorrow, this guy made plans a week and suggested we have lunch and wine before the movie. Maybe after this date I’ll go the old fashion way for a while.
Angel
Ewa he messaged today saying ‘sorry for the lag it’s been a busy week and that he isn’t sure about Sunday’ so I blocked him.
Liz Lemon
23 years older than you is a huge age difference. AngieBaby is right, it’s tough to make a relationship with such a huge age difference work. This guy could be your dad.
And not to be cynical, but he lives an hour away and you had one date…for all you know he’s married. You don’t know this guy at all.
App dating is tough but it can work. I met my bf online & we’ve been together almost 4 years. I know plenty of people with successful relationships and marriages with people they met online. One thing that helps you be successful is being selective, and not dating guys that you don’t have much in common with, or have a huge age difference, etc. Set yourself up for success by dating guys that seem compatible. I have a friend who will date pretty much any guy that talks to her (guys she has absolutely nothing in common with) & she spends a lot of time dating guys where it ultimately goes nowhere.
T from NY
Listen I’m the first person to advise a woman to not have unreasonable expectations about men in the beginning stages of dating. Also to say we can’t EXPECT a guy to keep calling or ask us out just because we like them or because they have been – until they are our boyfriend. But I’m sick and tired of women not getting validation for their feelings when men act shi##y. He should not have made additional plans, texted he had a great time, then disappeared without so much as a “It was nice to meet ya I’ve moved on”. (I’m glad he finally answered at least) Sure people can go on dates, say they had a good time to be polite – but then never talk to you again or fade away, but as women – telling other women you should have ZERO expectations of civil behavior or humane interaction is bs. Men have been gaslighting us for CENTURIES, now we’ve been socialized to do it to each other.
I’m ALWAYS kind, respectful, enough to tell men who are interested in me (but I’m not interested anymore in them) “Thank you so much for dinner (or the drink) but I’m not feeling enough to continue. Wish you the best “. I am sorry he isn’t mature or grown enough, or we don’t expect men to be mature or grown enough, or humane enough to just SAY.
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Dex
Thanks Angel! I promise you’ll be glad you did. He’s a no.
T from NY- I actually really liked your point. It wasn’t really the point of the thread but I feel it’s a huge topic that needs to be addressed. I’ve never been ghosted before but I can only imagine. What I really hear from your post is how hurtful it is and also reminds me of how much we truly continue to normalize de-humanizing and s****ty behaviors when we shouldn’t be!
Thanks for sharing your honest thoughts, a great reminder for me and thanks so much for starting the discussion. I so wish everyone would just start treating everyone better instead of “what’s in it for me/I have to get there first/if it’s legal that’s then it’s ok!!! I didn’t do anything wrong!!!”
That last one is such a low bar and i feel it’s how so many people justify their own s***ty behavior.
But I digress:)
All that to say- Good post, keep being the change you want to see here, thanks for making me think.
AngieBaby
The definition of suffering is expecting people to be the way you want them to be. You will always be disappointed at some point along the line. Expecting strangers or people you hardly know to act the way you want them to is handing way too much power over them.
I have a certain code of manners. It’s mine. It’s higher level than most people’s. I adhere to it. Others may or may no do the same and that’s OK. If there isn’t enough overlap we’re not cut out to be in each other’s lives. No big deal.
I do not expect nor do I want a man to tell me thanks but no thanks if it’s a no from him after a first date. If he wants to ask me out again he will. If he doesn’t I don’t need or want notification. He doesn’t call for another date, I couldn’t care less, I wasn’t invested and I’m not bothered if he liked me or not.I feel that way for up to 5-6 dates. We’re both trying it out and getting to know each other. He doesn’t owe me a damn thing. Nor do I owe him anything and I don’t feel the need to send a rejection notice after a date that didn’t work out. If I decide I don’t want to see him again and he asks me out I will be honest and say I just didn’t feel like we clicked.
It’s funny to me that it’s only ever the guys who feel they have to tell me the next day that we didn’t click were not good dates and we both knew it.
My two cents.
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