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    Carmen

    I have been at my new job for a year now. I work in a building with another department. There is many office suites in it, with a lot of open lobby space we share between us.

    I am kind of a shy person and keep to myself. I had a horrible experience with treatment by other colleagues at my last job and just try to stay under the radar, do a great job, and hopefully no one notice me. I walk all around the building and see many people over and over, but many I never actually met.

    I was walking to the bathroom through the lobby area, and a man I have seen around the building was coming out the door of his office suite next to me. We made eye contact, I smiled and nodded, the typical cordial response, to people you’ve seen a ton, but never met.

    He smiled too, seemingly eager, and as I went to continue on to the bathroom straight ahead, he pretty much stopped me, getting in my way and stopping me. He then says how he has seen me around a lot and thought we should formally meet. I think, okay this is professional and normal. Just another professional connection for me. I was cool with it.

    We start talking and he seems overly interested in me and what I am saying. You know that look in a guy’s eye when he is just so into you. He had that. He was younger, compared to all the older people we work with so I was intrigued. But I could tell he was older than me. I am 29. He looked mid to later 30s. He kept asking me questions about me, and seemed so interested in what I was saying. I was a little flabbergasted, but also flattered.

    The conversation was going well. I was a bit giggly, blushing at his continued questions and interest.

    My big boss comes out of his office suite, sees us in front of him, comes over and starts taking with us. He apparently knows this guy, and of course me. The holidays came up and holiday plans, and my boss asks this guy is he’s going to be seeing his wife and child for the holiday. I was then shocked. This guy had a wife and child. He was definitely flirting with me. I immediately changed my attitude, to friendly professional conversation thinking, this guy has a wife, he’s just being friendly to me, I guess thinking he was flirting was in my head.

    My boss leaves us to talk again, and I start asking him about his family. He doesn’t seem overly excited about talking about his wife, even making a face at one point of disgust.

    She lives 9 hours away driving with their 2 year old daughter. She apparently got a grant for her profession, and was supposed to be doing research there for one year, and has now been there for 3 years. I ask him if he wants to move there to be with them. He says no, because he has such a thriving career here and he loves this area and lifestyle. He says he often makes a drive a few times a month to see them for long weekends. He seems to really care about his job and love it here. As do I. I tell him then his wife should try and move here, that’s when he makes a face and throughout he keeps trying not to talk about his family.

    He then goes into this topic of saying how he feels like he lives a double life, he goes to them and is in a big house and acting as a family man, and when he is here he is in an apartment like a young bachelor again.

    I found this a weird statement to make, I mean you are married. You aren’t a bachelor.

    He then says he has to go and starts asking me when I will be back in my office after the holiday break. I name the date, he then tells me his date, a week after me. He then walks away and says we will have to grab a cup of coffee when he comes back.

    I just smile nodding, speechless.

    He has a wife, and grabbing a cup of coffee with a woman, not your wife, could be a date. But in my profession this could also be seen as professional, so I didn’t think much of it. Shrugged it off. It was odd, but maybe it was in my head as something more.

    The same day later on, I am on LinkedIn, and I see him as a recommendation. I’m big on professional networking online so I add him.

    I’m getting ready to leave for the day. I’m in my office suite, I forget I even added him on LinkedIn. I’m friends with everyone at work on there.

    I’m chatting with a co worker as she packs up next to me, and we go to walk out together and lock up, we practically run into him walking into our office suite. I hadn’t seen him enter our suite in the whole year I had been there. He seems surprised, and then makes an excuse that he was looking for Jane, another worker. I didn’t think that was true. Jane was well gone for the day, it was late. He was coming looking for me, and was surprised when he ran into me walking out with my friend. We all chat and he thanks me for the LinkedIn add. I’m confused at first, not remembering. But we laugh and chat casually. I leave for the day and again, think nothing of it.

    When I get home at night, I start getting private LinkedIn messages from him. I’m shocked. He starts complimenting my profile and all of my accomplishments. We start chatting. This isn’t professional, it’s like a guy talking to a girl he wants to get to know. He then asks for my number to text. I say okay. Again, I have a ton of people’s numbers from work and we text funny jokes and stuff. Didn’t think much into it.

    He starts telling me how he has noticed me for a while at work and knew he had to meet me. He said when he spoke to me he was really enamored and wanted to get to know me more. He asks me out for drinks. I was nervous, so said okay. Some of my co-workers, guys and girls do this. But I did think it was weird just him and I.

    I thought on it for a night, and he starts texting me the next day about a plan. He asks me whether or not I thought us taking at work would lead to drinks, I said I didn’t know, he said he’d tell me his answer on that when we go out.

    I tell him I cannot go any longer.

    He says he is so sad. He asks me if I cannot go, or do not want to go. I am honest with him and tell him, I remembered he had a wife and would never want her to be uncomfortable with us grabbing a drink. He says he understands and is so sad, and really wants to get to know me more and was thinking about me all day.

    He claims his wife knows he lives differently when he is up here opposed to his family life with her.

    I’m sitting there like, so he sees other women?

    He claims we should still grab a drink just for fun and not think too much into it.

    I again say I don’t think it is a good idea. He says he understands my hesitation and he doesn’t want to make me feel weird and we can just be friendly around our building. I say okay.

    He then says he hopes I have a change of heart and he’d love to get to know me and explain to me his marriage in person, because once I hear it, I will see it is not an issue. And how he will see me after the new year. I wish him a happy new year and say I will see him around and it ends there.

    What is up with this? Am I crazy? If he’s unhappy why not get a divorce? Was I too harsh on him? Or right for not going out with a married man? Was he definitely asking me out?

    Open marriage? I can’t understand this situation.

    #781633 Reply
    Raven

    What are you hoping to accomplish with this guy?

    #781634 Reply
    Asayi

    He’s married. Plain and simple. Your head knows it, but somehow (like many women who end up being ‘the other women’), you’re trying to justify.

    I don’t know what you’re expecting from him. You want to fit into his ‘bachelor’ lifestyle (hum more like his loser lifestyle)?

    I don’t know what to tell you. You already know the right thing to do in this situation. You can only control what you can control (your behavior and reaction).

    #781638 Reply
    Dangerouse

    You knew dang well he’s married yet you hit him on LinkedIn. What? W obviously, y ar desperate for some attention and drama.

    Who cares what he says and does. You hit up a married man.

    #781643 Reply
    Tallspicy

    People in open relationships, make that clear literally in the first few sentences. This guy lives like an open marriage, but is not in one. Just stay away from him. Yes, he was asking you out. I honestly do not understand why you are so confused. And people in open marriages do not talk about how awful their spouses (who they chose and keep choosing) are.

    #781644 Reply
    Ss

    Oh please! You knew he was married and you are lying to yourself pretending all the steps you’ve taken were innocent. There is nothing innocent about your actions and I don’t know what you expected to get off this forum but no one is going to support and advocate you pursuing a “friendship” with this man or believe you are so innocent you didn’t know what you were doing or the impression you have been giving him!

    I got sucked in by a married man recently- without my knowledge- and they ALL say the same cr@p about how their situation is different… the classic “my wife doesn’t understand me” “we don’t have sex” “we live separate lives” “we are together for the kids sake” it is utter rubbish.

    Leave this man well alone unless you really want to be his side chick

    #781648 Reply
    kaye

    I find it rather strange you’ve been at your job a year, and avoid meeting people yet you claim to be friends with all your colleagues on LinkedIn and have a “ton of people’s numbers” from work. Seems that would be a really difficult feat to accomplish when you are trying to fly under the radar and not get noticed! Sounds to me you are making an excuse as to why you added him and why you gave him your number. You liked the attention you were getting and wanted more. Then you agree to a date out for drinks, but thankfully come to your senses the next day. This is a man you want to stay VERY FAR away from. I want you just to imagine the part where the boss stepped out to ask about his wife and child didn’t happen. Imagine this guy flirting with you, asking you out for drinks, and you go, start seeing him, maybe even start falling for him and you don’t learn about the wife and kid for weeks or months down the road. How would you feel? Also do you not find it strange she’s been gone now for 3 years yet they have a 2 year old? Obviously their sex life is alive and well! The fact he lives differently here than when he is having his family life with her should make any woman cringe! You weren’t too harsh on him at all! You should have actually been more forceful because based on what he said I think he will try to talk you into reconsidering. This is way more drama than you want to get sucked into. Keep your distance and shoot down his advances. It’s that simple.

    #781655 Reply
    Andrea

    He had to have noticed you are introverted and a loner–what an easy target. You are eager to receive attention from a man, and are seemingly willing to help him betray his wife and child to get a drop of it. If his wife is so okay with this, ask to get her phone number so you can speak with her about it directly.

    #781658 Reply
    Vera

    This kind of stuff never ends well.
    Many men will go to great lengths to have a side chick, including lying about their marriage status . They justify it in their heads and also make the target woman feel less guilty if they say there’s something wrong with the marriage anyways . Don’t go there .

    #781662 Reply
    Peggy

    I agree with the others. This guy is bad news and part of you knew/knows that and wants to somehow believe and see him anyway. So avoid him so it will end badly.
    I also wonder if the boss didn’t see him “hitting you up” and asked about the wife and kid as a heads up warning to you that this guy is married but is a cheating player or at least a cheating wannabe….

    #781677 Reply
    K

    Look at it from his standpoint.

    You’re giggling and blushing when he stops you to meet you.

    He then immediately receives a LinkedIn request from you.

    You give him your number.

    You agree to meet him outside work.

    The message he’s getting from all of your actions is you are interested in him and you are buying his explanation about his wife and family and if he keeps pursuing you you will cave in and agree to have an affair with him.

    I am trying to think of a nice way to tell you that it’s time to grow up and start acting like a professional woman and not a naive little girl. You have all these excuses for why you’re flirting with disaster in the form of a married man in your work place – but you’re not fooling anyone but yourself. If you’re so shy and had such bad experience at your last workplace I can’t imagine why you’d even engage with him past hi, how are you, gotta get back to my desk now. Especially after the big boss came out and pointedly asked him about his holiday plans with his WIFE AND CHILD.

    You don’t need a problem or scandal at your office to threaten your job. Stop giving this guy mixed messages and stick to business. You see this guy outside work and you will regret it.

    #781678 Reply
    Honeypie

    It’s such a shame for you that you’ve developed feelings for a married man, and that you are so very attracted to him.

    Please think about this long and hard. Where will it end? He has a wife and child who he play happy families with, then pops in a box to play with his single life he pretends to have while he’s at work

    This will hurt you more the longer you let it go on for

    #781700 Reply
    redcurleysue

    No….just no.

    #781713 Reply
    anon

    No. Run for the hills. Experienced poly here and yes it is 100% true, if a person is married and in an open marriage or other poly arrangement, they will say this very clearly up front because generally, such open communication is important in the poly community. I once made this mistake with someone that was wishy-washy about his marital status being open and it had an absolutely terrible end. So I would say unless someone is super upfront, and you are ok with being a secondary relationship with his wife is his primary, just run.

    #781722 Reply
    Broken

    Walk away from this dude. He clearly picked you for a reason. You’re a loner and probably picked up that you were lonely. Married men specifically target vulnerable types. Lonely, problems with BF, husband or loner types. They will be all friendly to test the waters.

    This happened to me at work. They forge a very platonic relationship at first which can go on for ages. They are hoping YOU will become attracted to them and give them the green light to start a more intimate relationship. All during this time they will make comments about problems in the marriage, stress at home.

    Men have to be very careful not to come on to women at work due to sexual harrassment claims by women. They are very cunning and “pretend” to only want to be your friend Hogwash. Secretly they want an affair. If things go south they have all the texts saved to show you wanted them. It gets ugly when you fall for them too, want to spend time with him and you want him to leave the wife. Then the mm dumps you or starts rationing out his time. It’s horrible for the woman.

    The only reason a mm is being friends with you at work is to eventually hook and then use you. Dont forget too about how they will boast to their buddies at work. Your reputation at work will also down hill. Dont expect promotions any time soon.

    #781727 Reply
    Alice

    Hello,
    You are being sexually groomed by a highly narcissistic individual with an incredibly fragile identity. It’s as simple as that. I encourage you to read about boundaries in relationships (psychological).
    From the perspective that you wrote from, you seem to have a fairly strong identity as far as picking up on basic moral principles. Our generation has lost this skill… our gut instinct. Now science understands that we have more neurons in our gut (intestines) than a dog has in it’s brain.
    Trust your gut and set some serious boundaries and report him to your superior. I promise you will feel the effects of living life with integrity… a virtue that is quickly vanishing from our interactions with people of whom we feel attracted. Take care in the realest sense because he will quickly aim to normalize his behavior with you. We all go through interactions with us, but I promise you this as a fellow human being… the feeling you will get by living with integrity is insurmountable compared to the feeling you will get from allowing yourself to receive that energy from him and to be groomed.
    ~ Alice

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