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    MOM2BOYS

    I am separated from my husband and have been for about 8 months. We are nearing the finalization of our divorce, but it’s not legally final yet. We knew that we would be separating for about 2 months prior to him moving out of the house. We were married for 26 years and dated for just over one year before getting married. We got married very young (I was 18 and he was 21) and have two sons, 16 and 14 years old.
    I am currently dating someone who was separated from his wife with a similar length marriage, 3 kids (22, 20 and 18) and who has moved out of his family home, coincidentally, within a week of when my husband moved out of our home. He and his wife are not as far along in the divorce process but I am confident that this is not a situation where he will be reconciling with his wife as he has left the house and he has told his wife, his parents and one of his children that he is dating someone although he hasn’t shared many details about me with any of them yet.
    My soon-to-be ex is also aware that I’m dating someone and knows quite a few more details since he snooped on my social media account and saw some message between me and my boyfriend. My friends and most of my family know that I am dating and either know the details of our relationship or have even met my boyfriend, some on numerous occasions.
    Just last weekend was the first time I mentioned to my boys that I have been on dates since separating from their dad and they are not thrilled with the idea. They have known their dad is casually dating for at least 3 months now and they have no problem with dad dating but based on comments that they have made both my ex and I; we knew that the idea of mom dating was going to be another story. The 14-year-old says he doesn’t want to know about my dates or even when I am going on one and the 16-year-old expressed a big concern with another man trying to take the place of his father.
    The three of us had this conversation together (me and my 2 boys) and I assured them that I didn’t even plan on introducing them to anyone unless I was certain that the relationship was getting serious and that their relationship with their dad would not be challenged. I said that no one is ever going to try and parent them or replace their dad. With that being said, at some point I do think it would be beneficial for them to see me in a relationship with a good man as an example of a healthy relationship. We (my boyfriend and I) do see and a future for us and would like for my boyfriend to have a relationship with my kids, just as I would like to have a relationship with his kids, but not one of a parent or even really a step-parent considering the kids ages.
    All of this background has been to pose two questions:
    1. When is it appropriate to introduce the kids to my boyfriend? Keep in mind that although we have been dating for 6 months the kids just learned of any dating activity for mom (me) last weekend and I think that I will have to slowly let them know that I’m dating just one special person, that it’s getting serious, etc. But I am looking for advice from those of you who have experience with this type of situation, whether you were the mom, the dad, the boyfriend, the kid, etc.
    2. Now that the initial whirlwind romance is wearing off and we are trying to establish a real relationship post- marriage what is a reasonable amount of time for my boyfriend and I to expect to spend with one another? This is something that I am struggling with because if it were up to us (me and the BF) we would live together and see each other every day, but considering neither of us have finalized our divorces and that there are kiddos involved we realize that is not a realistic expectation. As I said we’ve been at least seeing each other anywhere from 5-7 days of the week. Typically for about 3 hours at a time, but sometimes longer and sometimes as short as 20 minutes. My ex travels for work so he is only with the kids overnight on Fridays and then again for dinner in the evening on Sundays (about a 3-4 hour visit). The ex does make an effort to see the kids more if he happens to be in town that week, but he does not take them for any additional overnights. The only time my BF and I are able to spend the night is once a week on our standing Friday date night. I know that 5-7 days a week is unsustainable. My kids have complained about how much time I am away from home and I can see a marked improvement in their behavior in the past couple of weeks that I have been trying to reduce the amount of time I’m spending with my boyfriend. Again, any advice (from a variety of perspectives) what is a reasonable amount of time to expect to spend with a serious BF, that your kids don’t know about yet, while still navigating a divorce, is appreciated.

    #782486 Reply
    Tallspicy

    Ok, peanut gallery here. It is very alarming that you jumped into something so serious so fast. There, I said it. Neither of you have healed from what happened in the last relationships that were very long, nor do you really know who you are as individual people. This sounds massively co-dependent. You would want to live together? You see him 5 days a week (how is that possible if he is traveling like you said) Of course you would, it easily replaces what you both lost but without the hard emotional work of healing. Have either of you been to counseling?

    I am sorry to sound so harsh, but the kids seem the least of the issues here.

    If you could give me more information about what you have both done to make sure that you are emotionally healthy, then perhaps we could move to the kids….

    But, I will give you credit that you have shielded them from this except for not being around.

    #782487 Reply
    whoa nelly!

    Kids (especially boys) are going to be more judgemental and protective of their mother dating than their dad dating. (That’s been my personal experience and anecdotally also the experience of some other moms I know.)

    I honestly think it would be better for your kids if you kept your boyfriend separate from your personal life right now, and let your kids adjust to the divorce first. Let them know you date, but they don’t need the details nor do they need to have that guy be a part of their torn-apart family at the moment. Why are you in such a hurry to replace their dad? That’s how they will view it. And maybe take a step back from the seriousness of the relationship while your kids (and YOU) heal and learn from the divorce.

    You need some space instead of diving into another relationship. And the more you focus on the kids right now, the less messed up they’ll be later on in life.

    #782490 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    I don’t mean any disrespect, honestly, but I’m not even sure how to answer this question. You were married 26 years, separated from your husband 8 months ago, and already have a serious boyfriend? A boyfriend who is cutting into your time with your children to the point where they’re complaining and it’s affecting their behavior? That’s what I can’t get over.

    I would think that your focus at this point should be your children and not your boyfriend. Divorce is very hard on everyone, including the kids. I really can’t see it as a good thing that you rushed into a serious relationship so soon after separating from your husband. Surely you need time to heal yourself, not to mention support your children, during this difficult time? What’s the rush for a new relationship?

    To specifically answer your question. As for what’s a reasonable amount of time to spend with a serious BF when you have kids in the house, who have not met him yet, while you’re getting divorced–I would say 1-2 nights a week is more than reasonable? If you have a standing Friday overnight date, be happy with that for now. You should really be focusing on your kids and not trying to see your boyfriend for 20 minutes a day or whatever. Not trying to sound harsh but just trying to put your focus on what’s important here.

    #782491 Reply
    MOM2BOYS

    First let me say thank you both for your responses. I purposely did not ask about the seriousness of the relationship or whether jumping into another relationship so soon is advisable because I already realize that prevailing wisdom would say that it is most definitely NOT ADVISABLE. With that being said, I have met a man who treats me so well, like I have never been treated before, and who I believe genuinely cares about me and who I genuinely care about as well. Together he and I have read articles about divorce, articles about building healthy relationships, etc. He is the first person who ever even introduced the idea of surrender and vulnerability in a relationship to me. I believe him to be very emotionally intelligent and he has been a great comfort to me during this process.

    I am seeing a therapist to work on my own issues (self worth and codependency are common themes) and even though she agrees that this relationship is early, she also understands that I am not willing to give it up just because the timing is off.

    To clarify how we are able to spend so much time together, the BF is not the one who travels for work, that is the EX.

    I do know that I need to heal and work on myself and I have been making efforts in that direction. That very goal, as well as being more present for my children, is part of why I am asking what others think is a reasonable amount of time to spend with a serious BF who you cannot yet incorporate into your family life.

    #782492 Reply
    MOM2BOYS

    Liz Lemon first, hank you for your answer of 1-2 nights per week.
    Second, you may not mean to sound harsh, but you do.
    What you don’t know is the circumstance of my marriage or what led to the separation and impending divorce. I do realize that I need to heal and work on my issues that contributed to the downfall of my marriage, and I am doing that. In addition to seeing a therapist, I will soon be starting group therapy. Both of my boys are seeing their own therapist as well.
    What I am not willing to do is lose the connection I have made with this new man just because the timing of it is not ideal.

    #782493 Reply
    Dangerouse

    Been there, done that. Your kids will hate you. Couple years from now you will wake up and realize you lost your boys and it will be too late.

    #782494 Reply
    MOM2BOYS

    Dangerouse, would you like to expand on that?

    #782496 Reply
    redcurleysue

    I understand you have emotional needs – especially now. I also know your boys have needs – especially now. Their world has collapsed.
    I divorced with three children in their teens. Their dad dated right away – I waited a couple of years until my children pushed me to date – and even then I waited.
    To children, even in their teens, you are their entire world. It is not until they establish themselves as people are they ready to let go of you.
    Right now you need to focus on your children and their needs. Trust me, this pays off later in your relationship with them and they will be in your life till the end. Less focus on boyfriend and more on children for the next couple of years. I would be with boyfriend 25% and children 75%. Tune into your kids – spend time with them and their interests, listen to them and be with them. Take them to a ballgame – weekly jog – somethings you do with only them. Plan these things and keep your listening ears open. Let them know you expect them to be present and accounted for. Take them camping and fishing. Boys and men connect through shared experiences with another person. Take pictures and create an album. Let them know they are critically important to you.

    #782499 Reply
    Newbie

    I think you will get a lot of the same advice when it comes to being so serious when the divorces are not finalized yet. I have the same reservations especially when you Have issues with self esteem and codepency. Because i dont really see how you can work on those and already see a new guy 5-6 times a week. You really sound like you made new guy the center of your life already and maybe its the same with him. So it really doesnt sound all that healty to me, but i respect you think you found something good and want to work that out. Ok, fair enough, but if this is a serious relationship then there is nothing against slowing it down for the purposes of both of you divorcing and dealing with that and new routines with children. Dont go sit on a pink cloud but get a clear head about what you want. If your love is true, it can handle a slower speed. It may in fact be a better choice

    #782532 Reply
    Raven

    Did I read correctly, You are both still married?

    #782535 Reply
    Anon

    How long have you been dating this guy? Please step way back. I know many women who jump into the next “amazing” relationship because they have never had this only to find months or years down the road that this person they are seeing are human just like they are and flawed. Take this much slower and please focus on your children. Divorce is a major trauma for kids.

    #782542 Reply
    kaye

    Since everyone here has already chimed in regarding spending more time with your kids and healing from your divorce before starting a new relationship, and I absolutely agree with everything they have said, I will go directly to your question. As you already see 5-7 days a week for 3 hours at a time is not sustainable given he is not incorporated into your life with the kids. You already see improvement in their behavior reducing the time you are away from them. I would say 3 times a week would be plenty. You have an overnight date night already so that means you would only be away from the kids for 2 nights. They are teenagers so they have their own lives and don’t expect you to be attached to them at the hip.
    But personally I think what you and your boyfriend have done is simply replace your exes with a new person and you are trying to fast forward your healing and this relationship. Even talking about moving in together 6 months in when neither of you is divorced!! I would encourage you to read other stories like yours on this site. So many women think they have found this amazing guy and as soon as the divorce is final he dumps you and is out playing the field because he was just using you as a bandaid and a crutch to get through the pain of divorce and not be lonely. Do you not think a man who has been married 25 years wants to see what’s out there and sample the buffet before he limits himself to eating the same thing every night for the rest of his life? And what do you seriously think the odds are that both of you will marry the first person you have a serious relationship with after your divorce? 
    I waited a year to introduce my now husband to my kids. They had no clue I dated other men for months because they never met them. The ONLY man they ever met I dated is now my husband. They have no clue how many losers I met! LOL After a year we were both sure we saw a future together, were already talking marriage and just FYI my kids never complained about how much time I was spending away from them after the divorce because I made them a priority for a year after I left their father before I even considered dating. And other 6 months after my divorce was final before I started going on dates. I never would have considered dating while I was still married because I think it sets a really bad example for your children that mommy is dating and sleeping with other men while still married. That’s just my opinion and my personal experience for what it’s worth. 

    #782544 Reply
    MOM2BOYS

    I just want to say thank you for all the thoughtful and informative responses. I knew that I needed to put my kids first, but it has been difficult due to their pulling away from me, which started prior to the divorce. In fact, the kids becoming teens contributed to the marriage falling apart. I’m not saying I blame them or would EVER in a millions say something like that to them! What I mean is that the emotional connection I had with them is what sustained me for years of disconnection with my husband. I went back to work full-time 2 years ago when the boys were in 7th and 9th grade and between working more and the natural progression of teens pulling away from their parents I began to feel all the things that were missing in my relationship. I had asked for years (and years and years) for more affection, physical and verbal (his love language is service, mine is touch) and didn’t get it. Every time I asked I was told “that’s just not who I am” but what I heard was “you’re not worth the effort”. I admit it, I stopped asking. I worked on myself various times over the years, different times in therapy, new hobbies, started working out (even had a personal trainer for 2 years), lost 65 lbs at one point, gave up drinking at one point (to see if that was an issue – it isn’t). My motto about relationships became “lower your expectations”. I guess my husband took that as a dig, but I never meant it that way. I thought I found the secret to a happy marriage. And I still believe that we need to really manage our expectations in a relationship and that we cannot expect another person to “complete” us or to “make us happy”. We have to complete ourselves, love ourselves, be happy on our own. In a way I wish that this man hadn’t come along quite yet because I totally understand what many of you are saying about healing first, loving yourself first, etc. But I still WON’T give him up just because the timing is off.

    What I will do is slow my roll. It’s going to be difficult, but for my kids (the loves of my life and my first priority even if I haven’t been doing the best of living up to that through this break up), I will put them first. I will try to reestablish my relationship with each of them. In fact, I am already working towards that and things are looking up. This week I was down to seeing the BF 3 days. But that is only because I missed our shared exercise class. I think going forward I will be seeing him 3-4 days a week. Two of those times will be when the kids are with their dad. One of those times will be at the exercise class (but the time we used to spend after exercise class will need to go away) and one other time per week for 2 – 3 hours when the kids are busy with their friends or video games or YouTube or whatever it is they do but it will be AFTER I have checked in with them, cooked them dinner, ate with them and talked, cleaned the kitchen and made sure they are in a good place mentally, emotionally, and have something to do. I think I can make it work, I do have all day Saturday, Saturday nights and Sunday during the day with them to make those connections and individual time with them as well as Monday – Thursday evenings with the exception of about 2 hours total for the exercise class and 2 -3 hours max one other time per week with the BF. Additional thoughts, advice and experience is still appreciated. The feedback here has been thoughtful and for the most part understanding and pleasant and again, I truly appreciate it. Sometimes it’s easier to hear things from strangers (although this is my first experience posting on a forum). Thank you.

    #782545 Reply
    redcurleysue

    They were pulling away since they do not feel a connection with you. All teens pull away but in your case you have to work hard to show them that you are not pulled away with this BF. That is why shared activities is so important right now. It shows them that you want to be with them…not only at home but somewhere that it is just you and them. Take them out…for an ice cream and leave your phone at home. It does not have to be expensive just out of the house with no phone calls from BF.

    #782547 Reply
    kaye

    I totally understand what you are saying! You have been starved for affection in your marriage and don’t want to give up the first person who is giving you the physical and emotional connection you have been missing all these years. I don’t think any of us are trying to beat you up, but just tell you some cautionary tales about what can happen when you rush things too fast and don’t heal from your relationships first. Two broken people can’t have an emotionally healthy relationship. You are correct that we cannot expect another person to complete us or make us happy, that has to come from within. 
    I think your plan to limit your time with your BF to spend more time and focus on your kids is a good one!! You have to understand they are also going through this emotional difficult time while also trying to adjust to all these teenage hormones, high school and peer pressures, etc. They need to feel you are there for them regardless!! And this time is so precious because you just won’t get it back and in a few years, BAM!! they are out on their own and making their way in the world and you will wish you had these dinners and talks back. And if you build and work to maintain these connections as much as you are working to maintain a connection with your boyfriend they will be with you for the rest of your life, possibly long after this man is a distant memory.  

    #782550 Reply
    Anon

    It sounds as if you have logistics figured out. I’m glad you’re putting your time in with your children because no matter how bad your marriage was with your husband, he’s their father and the break up with that takes an uneven path of healing as your path of healing will as well. All of this excitement with the new boyfriend makes it easier to deal with the ending of a marriage and break up of a family dynamic. Take care and keep us posted!

    #782582 Reply
    HMill

    I hope it’s ok to post here. I’ve been dealing with this pretty much exactly and I have been extremely anxious. My boys are teens. I make them a priority. I’ve been out 7 mos in my own place. My boys are doing pretty well and like my boyfriend The boyfriend has never married. He loves me but he lives with his Uncle and Aunt. It’s starting to bother me. He answers to them as in they call asking what he wants for dinner or when he will be home. We are in our 40’s. He stays with me often if kids aren’t there. He has a job. Not sure how to feel.

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