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  • #893530 Reply
    Sandra

    Hello Lane, that is actually very sound advice. At one point in my life I became very close friends with someone else and when my BFF kinda mentioned she didn’t trust my other friend much, I kinda took a step back from my other friend. We had a falling out and stopped talking. Eventually we began talking again but it was never the same. Just this weekend that friend reached out to me for something else via text and she actually invited me to lunch. An invitation that I had refused many times because of my BFF. This time I told her I would join her. It felt good. This friend is also single by the way.

    #893536 Reply
    Lane

    Yup, codependent relationships eventually become toxic, as does jealousy.

    Sounds like you’ve taken your first step towards independence. Keep meeting new people, making new friends, and establish healthier boundaries not only with yourself but others too.

    It will take time to untwine yourselves as you’re still overly enmeshed, so I do believe spending time apart will do you, and her, both some good. Balance: not too little, not too much. :o)

    #893543 Reply
    Sandra

    Yes Lane, thank you. Who knows maybe that’s what needed to happen all along so I could put some distance between us.

    #893658 Reply
    tammy

    i agree with lane, sandra. its not about breaking friendships, just taking a step back and branching out on your own. meeting new people and not so reliant on only 1/2 so called best friends. i had one or two old friendships like that and similar stuff happened. so now i have many good/close friends, of both the sexes. but no best friend as such. after a particular stage, most of us get involved in building families, that special man, career paths, etc. this way there is balance in life and your not too reliant on just that 1 person. works better for me.

    #893714 Reply
    Sandra

    Hi Tammy, I have often thought that I am like that as well. The type of person that should just have a few good friends as opposed to a best friend. That way I avoid situations like this. I think I held on to this friendship a lot longer than I should have because I was lonely in the friendship department. I have no sisters and all of my cousins are married and doing their own thing. I think my whole life I’ve always wanted to feel what it was like to have a sister. That one person you can call or talk to always that was your partner in crime. At least in my mind that’s what having a sister is like. So yes I am taking a step back from this friendship, I am very sad. We have not spoken since Wednesday and I do miss her. She was a constant in my life.

    #893722 Reply
    tammy

    i can feel you. i have 2 elder sisters and i have 2 cousin sisters am very close to. i also have few gud friends whom i interact with regularly and keep in touch though not daily. that works quite well for me.

    #893731 Reply
    Sandra

    Tammy, I’m definitely going to try and work on myself and see what happens. I am looking forward to hanging out with my other friend. We work together and so we do see each other and we talk here and there but we have not hung out in years because of comments my best friend made about her. The times my friend asked me to hang out and I turned her down I did it because I didn’t want my BFF to find out and give me grief about it and I also didn’t want to lie to her about where I was. Most weekends my BFF would invite me to go out or hang out at her place so that also took a lot of my time away from going out with other people or making other friends. The friends I have right now I met through her. So in this situation I feel like they will side with her. Sonia the other friend who is going on the birthday getaway made a few snarky comments when we were at the casino. I’m not a confrontational person so I just ignored her but I think her and my BFF had already talked about it and sonia was trying to get me to say something so she could give me her 2 cents. I think this is an issue between my BFF and I. But again I have made up my mind as sad as I am I think it’s for the best. She hasn’t reached out and neither have I. I’m guessing this will be the way things are from now on.

    #893734 Reply
    Padmini

    Hi, Sandra,

    Thank you for sharing with us that you have always wished for a Sister. It so happens that I have a Brother, but no Sister. I am very happy with having a Brother and do not know what it is like to have a Sister and not really pined for a Sister.

    It seems that you are caught-up with romanticizing Sisterhood; as you have not experienced it in actuality. It would serve you well to understand and accept Reality for what it is; instead of pining for what you do not have, with the belief that the grass is greener on the Other-Side.

    I actually experienced similar issues with another Friend I used to be so close with (than the Friend I mentioned earlier in your Thread here); as I was romanticizing our Friendship. When that Friend & I came to experience major Problems, it was heartbreaking for me; specifically since I had overromanticized our Friendship.

    As you do not know what it is like to have a Sister, you are unable to make an informed, valid claim that it is so so great to have a Sister. I advised you to instead look-upon your Female-Friendships through the lens of Reality and accordingly appreciate them for how they realistically are. Then all your Friendships can blossom! :)

    I wish you good luck! We are all here for you!

    #893749 Reply
    Sandra

    Hi Pandiimi, sadly you are correct. I do romanticize friendship. I have 3 younger brothers and while they have been there for me in the toughest moments of my life I can’t share everything with them or hang out with them in the same way, or talk about my day.

    When I was a teenager I had four cousins I was very close with, two and two sisters. We would all hang out and we had a meeting point. At the end of our day we would all end up at that same meeting point. Two sisters would go one way and the other two the other way , and I would go home by myself. For some reason that would make me very sad. I don’t know if that had an everlasting effect on how I view friendships.

    #893752 Reply
    Sandra

    Pandimi, sorry this thing keeps kicking me out so I have to star all over again so I figured I would do it in parts.

    My BFF has four sisters and while they are close , we are closer. I’m not saying she loves me more than them they are her sisters after all but we have a closer connection she shares everything with me things she wouldn’t share with them and she tells me things sometimes before she tells them.

    Her and I met when we were both married, we both divorced at around the same time and even through her husband, other boyfriends and now her current boyfriend things have always stayed the same between us. We’ve had our arguments in the past like I’m sure most friends do but our friendship was always solid and we’ve always figured a way to move past it this time however I don’t think we will.

    This time I think she probably bonded with someone she now feels she has more in common with I think it’s probably the wife of one of her boyfriends friends.

    I know I have insecurity issues for sure and I’m not blaming my insecurities on her they are mine to deal with but I think for my peace of mind and my mental health I need to take a step away from this because I am not in a good place right now so thank you so much for continuing to reply to my story and for sharing yours. it’s much appreciated and it makes me feel not so alone.

    #893754 Reply
    Padmini

    Hi, Sandra,

    Oh, that makes more sense now that you mention you have three Brothers; that you would thus all-the-more pine for a Sister; being surrounded by Boys.

    I have a Female-Friend, who has four Older-Brothers and thus was quick to consider me a Sister; which she would pine for me more than I would.

    I am sorry that you felt sad when witnessing those two pairs of Sisters among your Cousins going home together. However, I doubt you would really know everything that has been going on between each pair of Sisters. They certainly have had their Ups & Downs among one other; as is the Case in every Relationship.

    I have found that Life usually plays-out as it is meant to–in the best way possible for each and every one of us! :)

    #893759 Reply
    Sandra

    That is true Pandimi, it’s just waiting for it to pan out that is sometimes hard. Especially when someone has been in your life for so long. In a sense I feel like I am mourning a loss.

    #893776 Reply
    Padmini

    Hi, Sandra,

    You are most welcome! I actually posted My Latest Reply before reading your Reply ##893752. where you mention the Four Sisters of Your BFF.

    I was actually considering when posting My Latest Reply whether I should Reflect on Friendship vs. Sisterhood:

    As you are aware: The Love between Sisters is unconditional. And as you rightly-say, in many Cases, an Individual feels more comfortable sharing certain confidences with a Close-Friend rather-than a Sister.

    In a way, you could feel very thankful that your Friend SELECTED you to be close to; unlike her Sisters came to her through the Natural-Order of Life. I now think of My Relationship with My Father’s Brother’s Wife, whom I have always loved so much and admired. I was telling My Mom when I was a Teenager that I was envious that My Father’s Brother’s Wife is so close to her Biological-Niece and would care for her more than me. And My Mom said, “Well, that’s her niece! Why don’t you appreciate that she really loves and cares for you as much as she does [in spite of not being obligated to]?!”

    You could apply likewise to Your Best-Friend! It is so sweet that you and she have bonded through all Your Ups & Downs!

    I am also glad to find you are objectively accepting to perceive how all pans-out. I emphasize: Do NOT think that Your Best-Friend’s Birth-Day Plans are overindicative of anything or that this is the Final Word on that Matter! :)

    #893780 Reply
    Padmini

    I would like to Add:

    It may appear that Your Best-Friend is getting closer to one of her Boyfriend’s Friend’s Wives. However, you and Your Best-Friend have History in Your Favor–and a History of both the Good and Bad–at that! It could be that Your Best-Friend is now bonding with that Wife out of the joy they are sharing. However, a Relationship is strongest when both have witnessed also the Moments-of-Vulnerability in the Other! :)

    #893792 Reply
    KarinaDogLover

    I think there are a lot of insightful comments here. Hope they could help you through this time and make you feel better.

    Sandra, I think your friendship with bestie doesn’t need to end. I think you just need a breath of fresh air. You mentioned you have another friend contacting you, I think it is a good start. I am not sure why your bestie did not like her, maybe she was being a little possessive, afraid of losing you?

    I was in your situation, very similar. All the friends I used to hang out with every weekend, they all got married and had kids one after another. Although I had a partner at the time, we were childless. So we spent a lot of time staying in watching TV to pass the weekend. I was quite bored, honestly! LOL

    So I tried to make friends with a coworker I thought we had a quite good connection with each other. We had a monthly craft day for close to 2 years until she moved away to another city. Then through her, I met some of her friends. I keep in touch with two of her friends after she moved.

    I also tried to make closer connection with my then partner (failed, we broke up last year); with his family (all good, they love me very much, but that did not help me and him be closer) and his friends (he dosen’t have a lot of friends thou).

    I also took a few courses at university and community centre, so I met another few friends, and one we stay in touch and get very close. And now she is one of my close friends and also my exercise trainer.

    My girl friends, they are still my girl friends. They are moms, so they will always be busy with no end. Last week we were so fortunate to be able to have one girls night. The host she said “This is my first real alone girls night in 12 years after I gave birth to my first born.” You could imagine.

    Your bestie might be distant now, for whatever reason. It is not necessary the end of your friendship. Go explore the world and have fun. Keep her in your heart and send in a word or two once in awhile to keep in touch.

    Hope everything works out for the best for both of you. Good luck!

    #893841 Reply
    Sandra

    Hi Pandimi, I hear what you’re saying and it is sad, I mean that she’s getting closer to someone and like I said I do understand but I still feel a little bit sad and a little bit pushed to the side. The day I talk to her boyfriend about the issues that were going on he mentioned to me a couple of things that are going on in her life and some of them do involve that wife of that friend of his and like I said those are things that may be a couple of months ago I would’ve been the first to know and now I have no idea that that’s going on in her life. Even he was surprised when he told me about these things and I told him I had no clue what she had those things going on in her life. I do hope that at some point things will be OK and maybe this is a blessing in disguise and I’m just not seeing it right now. So thank you for your kind words.

    #893843 Reply
    Sandra

    Hi Karina, I am so glad that after everything you went through that you are at peace, that’s where I hope to be att. unfortunately I am going to have to probably go through the grieving process and that is the hardest part so I thank you for being supportive and for sharing your story, stories like this really do give me hope for what’s to come and while I am upset and sad right now I know that there are better days coming so as of now I am occupying myself with school I am a part-time student I do have kids that keep me somewhat busy they are older but all in all I think that reconnecting with some older friends and probably belng more available to other friends that I would normally not be will help me through this.

    #894325 Reply
    tammy

    i had two best friends, both females, when i was in my teens and early twenties. the type of friendship where you would practically meet daily or spend hours on the phone. with one i would see all the latest movies since she was a big movie buff and with the other we would always go to small pubs and cafes drinking beer and discussing men. :-). i was very badly let down by both. so i decided to try my best and have few good friends instead of 1/2 close female friends. that way when the weekend approaches i usually have someone or the other to either go fr a lunch with or coffee. or at times at pubs/bars/lounges and catch up over dinner and drinks. most of these good friends are men. what i realized is that am much more comfortable with men than women. also my jobs for over 10 years, had me working in specialized departments where there were only men. i think i have changed a lot. i no longer need best friends. i would be frankly bored now if i have to spend most of my time with just 1 group of people.

    #894490 Reply
    Sandra

    Hi Tammy, what you are saying does make a lot of sense and I think over the years I was so focused on just this one friendship because I really did believe it would last forever. We would tell each other as much. We were like sisters. But I do believe and I have for a while now that I probably would do better without a best friend. This is draining for me. I have other friends that know her that have told me more than once that this is a one sided friendship ,where I have given more than I have received. I think I chose not to see it and I dismissed many of the things she did over the years and just figured that as her best friend I had to accept her behavior the same way she accepted mine because we all have flaws.

    #894677 Reply
    Sandra

    ***update***

    So my BFF texted me earlier today asking if I could go over to her house on Sunday so we could get closure. At first I told her no because at this point talking about closure would kind of defeat the purpose if the outcome was going to be the same. I told her if she had something to say to me we could talk on the phone and she said meeting in person would give us a chance to have a conversation. I am an overly emotional person so I know I will cry. I agreed to meet just to see what she will say.

    I am worried because the simple fact that she used the word closure makes me realize this friendship is over and while I did prefer that given the circumstances I think having to hear it will make it that much more hurtful. I just wanted us to never speak again if that’s what was going to happen.

    I don’t know what to tell her or what to say. To me it felt like we said everything we had to say last week so what’s the point of re-hashing it if we will end up in the same exact place.

    #894694 Reply
    tammy

    sandra in my case, we never went through a formal closure event. certain things happened, and we all realized that too much has happened for us to be able to go back to the same level of friendship. we lost contact over the years and now am in touch with only one of them. the same woman i discussed earlier. who has now reconnected because she has lost all her data on her mobile phone. :-).

    if i was in your place I wouldn’t go for any such meeting to discuss ‘closure”. its only going to cause more heartbreak and sadness. what my view is right now both of you guys are struggling with raw emotions and changing dynamics between you two. i think you feel betrayed and abandoned and she feels you no longer fit in her life like you used to. its too soon to meet. maybe when things have settled down a bit in your mind and you have had time to quietly reflect, and your not feeling so raw, that would be a more appropriate time to see if your friendship is salvageable with changing dynamics.

    #894696 Reply
    tammy

    i agree with your views a 100%. tell her you need time and to meet after few weeks if at all after that time gap you guys still want to meet. meeting now is pointless. there will be lot of accusations and you did this talks! my suggestion is to skip that meeting for the present.

    #894705 Reply
    tammy

    sorry i missed the part where u said you agreed to the meeting. pleas don’t meet if your having 2nd thoughts. don’t get convinced unless your sure you want to meet. meet when you feel your ready to meet. postpone the meeting is my suggestion. just tell her you suddenly have some other stuff coming up and that you will let her know later when would be a good day to meet.

    #894714 Reply
    Sandra

    Hi Tammy, you are right. I think right now there are too many hurt feelings and we will probably end up saying things we don’t mean to say and that will make it worse. To tell the truth I don’t even know why she wanted to talk so soon. That’s not her. So it’s either because she wants to move on and close this chapter in her life or her boyfriend convinced her to talk to me. But again, nothing has changed the dynamics of our friendship are the same. Her life has changed and she has bonded with other women and I can’t change that. My life is still the same so we don’t have much in common anymore other than an old friendship and at some point that was no longer enough. Our friendship used fo just flow , now even when we did hang out or talked on the phone it just felt so superficial. Not that long ago she showed me a calendar where she had written down all of the plans her and her boyfriend had for pretty much every weekend. Plans that they had with other couples. The whole month of June was full so I think right there she was already telling me. I won’t be able to see you all month. What can I do. Just accept it and move on, before she shows me the month of July.

    #894838 Reply
    tammy

    ouch that must hurt. your friend in her excitement of this new life with her bf, doesn’t realize that shes being insensitive and hurting you. or maybe that’s her way of telling you there seems to be no open slots of time for this friendship with you? either way, time for you to take the not so subtle hint and buzz off. why give her the closure that she needs when its only going to mess you up more? just like you are coming to terms with this, so will she. avoid meeting her on sunday or any other day in near future.

    instead take time to deal with this breakup and factor that in over the next few weeks. my suggestion is to sit down and figure the things that you actually like doing. be it weekend trekking, yoga classes, some golf course, cooking classes, some new dishes you want to learn to cook. or take off this weekend to spend time with some cousins, mom, relatives, whatever you can think off. get listed on some dating apps, movies, some nice web series, just do whatever it takes.

    meeting on sunday is mostly going to end one way i feel. you accusing her of forgetting you and your feelings of betrayal. and in turn she possibly may accuse you of being jealous of her new life, her steady relationship, etc. i would avoid. rest you must do what you feel is good for you at this point in life. either which way do keep us posted. take care

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