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  • #805779 Reply
    Ewa

    hi.

    Few days ago I asked for your advice and here I am asking again.
    Been dating this guy for 4 months we are exclusive and had talks about relationships but as we’ve both been singles for a really long time we decided to no rush.
    When we met he was healthy had a good job etc. Because of the current situation he lost his job etc and on top of it he had some injuries that prevented him from enjoying time with me yet we were still seeing each other . He broke his finger at the beginning of August. Really badly. He needs to take codeine 8 times a day and basically when he’s off work (he found a temporary job) he sleeps all day . He told me recently that he feels down and like a burden so he pushes people away.

    We were meant to see each other yesterday but he messaged saying he needs some space . So I offered my suport and I am going to respect his wish . He then messaged saying he needs couple of weeks to sort his head out and that he is really sorry and told me about his plans for a weekend and that he will speak to me soon.

    He needs to have surgery pretty much every 2 weeks for another 6 weeks. I know men withdraw when stressed and need time to figure things out .

    Do you think he will come back when I do give him that space?

    #805783 Reply
    T from NY

    I would treasure the good memories of the last several months, but consider him gone. If he comes back later – take stock where you’re at and decide then. Men who want to be with you – stay with you no matter what they have going on. When they are in an emotional place they want a relationship they turn towards you, not away when they have troubles. Or if they really don’t want to lose you, they plead for you to stay even when they are not at their best.

    It’s not your job to riddle out how he’ll heal. Physically or mentally. It’s your job to look after you, your heart, and your energy. He’s letting you know he’s not worthy of your investment right now and when a man does that BELIEVE HIM. This 3-4 month bench mark is when men decide about moving the relationship forward anyway. Consider this him deciding. Don’t look back or hang on. Grieve this a bit, tend to you and then move forward. We’ve all been there.

    #805784 Reply
    Ewa

    I disagree, because how can he be thinking of relationship when he basically can’t function. He can’t have sex he can’t stay awake even when watching a movie he feels tired and grumpy all the time. For me no matter how much I liked someone I wouldn’t want to be seen in that state not to mention act like a good bf. He is one of those guys who would do anything for you I couldn’t even get a glass of water because he was bringing it to me.

    He told me he is rubbish at the moment and he is not happy with himself

    #805791 Reply
    Raven

    Codeine 8 times a day?!

    #805793 Reply
    Newbie

    You may not agree with the assesment of T but even of you dont her suggestions would make the most sense anyway. Because he wants to do this on his own. So you take of you and dont play Florence nightingale. I posted on your other threat where i remembered the last question someone postedh which was: is he your bf? Thats quite relevant here. If up to now you have not confirmed that you most definetely should say bye mentally for now. The reason to do this, is that even if he feels bad, he can still take care of himself. So you waiting around for him to heal is a big trap yo ican spend months in. So now he clearly asked for space so i would wish him well like you did and not contact him anymore. I think this is a case of bad luck but also him not really feeling it for you come together

    #805794 Reply
    Newbie

    Sorry for the typo’s. With some work i think you can decipher it

    #805797 Reply
    Ewa

    it’s complicated because his life basically turned up side down . He was injured for pretty much 5 months. He can’t ride his bike he can’t play golf he can’t even cook. And yes he takes codeine to deal with the pain.
    We can’t do things like normal couple would because he can’t even drive we can’t go exploring etc
    He doesn’t want me to see him being weak. I know men won’t commit knowing there are not happy and fulfilled in their lifes.

    #805799 Reply
    Newbie

    We understand its complicated but we like you to view your needs and desires and actions for the future instead of you feeling so sorry for this guy that he cant play golf. You have one job and that is to take care of you atm. You didnt specify you are a couple. Can i conclude from that that you are not official?

    #805800 Reply
    Ewa

    We had talks and he was very keen at the beginning when his life was good then we didn’t speak about it because I was hesitant .
    But once when he was upset about something and started arguing I said I offered to take you to hospital as in I was trying to make an effort and his response was ; yeah because this is what people in relationship do so in his eyes we are in relationship
    But I will add he has been single for 5 years and told me he didn’t like anyone like that for a long time. He was very affectionate. Wanted me to meet his parents etc but then his injury stopped everything

    #805801 Reply
    Ewa

    He also asked me if after 3 months if I see myself being with him but he never really ask oh are you going to be mine. Unless this means the same thing

    #805802 Reply
    Newbie

    I dont know. He asked for space so thats easy. Just pull back. Wil he come back? I have a feeling he wont. Come to think of it, that much pain from a broken finger? I broke a few bones in my hand a few years and i didnt need painkillers. Yet he needs to be sedated half the day but he can work just fine. But ok thats totally besides the point. I would strongly recommend he do his own healing and you do things you have to do including some fun things

    #805803 Reply
    Ewa

    Well he broke his bone in that way that they wanted to amputate it. He needs pins and screws now . He had his first surgery 2 weeks ago and then they left open wound and they will re-do it every 2 weeks for 6 weeks . He needs dressing changed every week. He has to work because otherwise he will be left with no money. He was sent home few times because he couldn’t cope with the pain.

    #805804 Reply
    Newbie

    Im pretty sure you will sit this out and see if he comes back. But just dont forget your own life ok? He has benched you for now, so take that seriously. It will unfold itself anyway

    #805808 Reply
    Ewa

    I am not sitting here and waiting for him to message me even though he said he will. In fact I’ve deleted his number.
    If he comes back good if not then it was never meant to be

    #805917 Reply
    Lane

    Hi again Ewa. This sounds like a case of bad timing. Men can be very fickle (man-babies) when it comes to their masculinity or not feeling good about themselves and need to be alone so they can to fix or solve it by themselves. I know it sucks when things like this go south really quickly but its not your job to fix him, heal him or make him feel better. A wife has an investment in him getting well but a maybe gf doesn’t hold that kind of position in a man’s life so its easy for them to push people aside who don’t.

    Listen, he’s trying to cope with a serious injury while trying to survive (keep a roof over his head) and doesn’t have the mental headspace to be dealing with a relationship too. Its too overwhelming for him at this time and why he’s asking for space, which in most cases is the softer/easier way of telling the other its a breakup (over).

    At this point you need to give him 100% of the space he asked for and do NOT indulge him! Do not put yourself in the ‘friend zone’ but keep yourself in the GF position on the fluke chance he has a change of mind (misses you like crazy). Only IF that happen’s HE will need to work super hard to get *you back* in his good graces! Unless that happens you give him zero (0) attention. I would not hold my breath or wait around for that to happen though, based on his current circumstances (broke and broken) and best to accept its over forever.

    #805922 Reply
    A

    Why do you have to assume anything? I have been in this position myself. Literally all you can do it take care of yourself, and dont reach out to him. This man does seem to legitimately be having a hard time. He may be a man, but he is also a human. I dont want to be around people, especially a love interest when I am struggling. Just live your life and if he reaches out to do something or talk on the phone, but compassionate and dont question him. Keep it casual. If you are happy to hear from him, act like it. If you decided you dont want to talk to him anymore and have moved on, you can tell him that too. I think there is a lot of bad advice here, honestly. Everyone is, of course, worried about the outcome. Will he come back? Is he on his way out? Chances are he may not even know. Why make assumptions when you probably only have like 15% of the information? Dont reach out to him. Dont check on him. But, if you want to, be open to the possibilities. All of them. You have the power here. He is not the only one who decides whether or not the relationship continues.

    #805930 Reply
    Lane

    A, the advice is not bad, its prevalent when dealing with a short-term romance, such as this, as woman have a tendency to over-compensate or over-indulge when there are two competing motives involved. In most cases (not all) it does not bode well for the woman to trap herself into the ‘friend-zone’ while she is secretly hoping or yearning he has a change of heart.

    I think it would be OK to briefly respond only IF he reaches out to take his temperature so to speak but it needs to come with boundaries or she could find herself being his counselor (someone he vents too) v. a potential GF if he gets through this and wants to see/date her again.

    In these situations I’ve always taken the “out of sight, out of mind” approach (aka “moved on”) and had several come back a few months to a year later, when they were in a position to pursue something long-term. They were the ones to contact me out of the blue and within a short time I knew their motives were pure because they stepped way up and batted it out the park. A couple others I just wasn’t feeling it for and had no desire to re-connect but the main factor in this is I had fully moved on and was living my life—not sitting around pining for a man to notice I was alive.

    #805961 Reply
    Ewa

    I am not in a friend zone I do not speak to him nor do I intend do . It’s hard not going to lie because we were talking everyday.
    I know some of you said it’s over however I know if he wanted it to be over he would just say it as he wouldn’t care.
    Not many men these days have a courage to even say they need space and not only that but still care about how I feel and also he told me how much time he needs which is actually the same amount of time he needs to recover from his injury.
    Regardless I need to start moving on

    #805964 Reply
    Ewa

    Another thing to add here is I was meant to be on holiday this week for 2 weeks and I feel like he was hoping those 2 weeks will give him some space but I had to cancel
    I also feel like I shouldn’t be asking to see him knowing he didn’t feel well

    #806055 Reply
    Liz Lemon

    I agree with many of the points here. He’s asked for space so you just have to give him space. From what you’ve described, I can understand why he may feel he needs space right now. Men can be funny about masculinity and feeling/looking weak in front of women they are romantically interested in. My bf needed a minor surgical procedure late last year so I drove him for the procedure, and he admitted to me he felt embarrassed/awkward at me seeing him in a hospital gown– and we’d been dating a year and a half at that point. Ultimately he was fine about it, and he looked cute in his gown :-) but the point is, even in an established, long term relationship, men can be funny about these things. (I know that you and this guy are not officially in a relationship, right? But I think the general principle still stands). It surprised me that my bf would even care about me seeing him in a hospital gown. It wouldn’t occur to me to feel strange around him if the situation were reversed and he saw me in a gown, but it’s different for us women.

    Anyway at this point there’s nothing you can do. He asked for space, give him space. Live your life and don’t hound him or try to play Florence Nightengale as Newbie said. If/when he reaches out and wants to pick things up where they were, you can respond accordingly– treat him with warmth and interest if you want to, and if you’ve lost interest, you should just move on. At this point all you can really do is live your life. It’s true that the 3-4 month mark is significant in dating because it tends to be the time that a relationship either falls apart or gets deeper. This time apart from you may make him realize he wants you in his life. Or he may just fade away. You just have to wait and see.

    #806863 Reply
    Ewa

    This morning he changed his photo on whastapp to a photo with a girl. I did some research and it turned out it is his sister.
    Do you think he is doing it deliberately to get some response from me ?

    #806865 Reply
    Lala

    Even if he is, the best response you can give him is no response. Don’t act in a way that allows him to view you as the desperate stalker. He should get the message that you are so busy enjoying your own life that you didn’t even notice.

    #806868 Reply
    Tallspicy

    Honey, I am going to be really blunt…. stop it!!!

    Once a man tells you he needs space, you should assume he is not thinking about you at all. I guarantee he did not change his photo to him and his sister as some secret way to communicate something to you.

    Imagine if you said anything… how could you say anything that would do anything other than make you look crazy and stalkerish?

    The fact that in all this he can change his photo means he is not so badly off.

    You should assume this is over. And you were never his girlfriend, so please open up to loving yourself and focusing on you instead.

    #806869 Reply
    Ewa

    well changing a photo doesn’t require much effort so not sure why you said in all this he can change his photo. People do that all the time to get attention especially men
    I am sorry to say but I believe there are men out there who would just say it’s over instead of saying he needs space.

    #806872 Reply
    Tallspicy

    Ewa,

    Men generally do not change social media unless they are very bored and a bored man should not be asking for space.

    We do not know if he is coming back or not. This man is not your boyfriend and has made that very clear. By actions and words. So stop acting like a girlfriend.

    For every reason you say he is coming back, there is a reason he is not.

    At 4 months, he should not be backing away and you should be official. Even if he had an accident. He could like you and simply be incapable right now.

    Is it possible he only wants space? Yes. But is it probable? No.

    You should be living your life and if he comes back, then you decide. But right now you assume he is coming back when he has given you no indication of when this space might end. You think it is about his hand, but did he actually say… I will call you as soon as I am healed? No…

    I am not trying to hurt you, I am trying to make you understand that waiting is going to drive you crazy at 4 months, you deserve a man who is capable and into you and showing it.

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