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  • #376850 Reply
    Christan

    I’ve been dating this guy for about 3 months. We spend a lot of time together, always have fun, no drama. It’s just a nice easy relationship when we’re together. When we’re not I hardly hear from him at all. He’ll call or send a text if he has something specific to tell me or to set up plans to do something but hardly ever just to talk or say hi or whatever. We’ve never had a conversation regarding the status of our relationship or what either of us wants. I honestly have no idea where we stand.

    We spend every weekend together (unless he’s working) and will usually see each other 2 or 3 times during the week. If either of us has plans we go together to the event. I’ve met lots of his friends, family, work colleagues, etc. He had family from out of the country staying with him this week and he invited me over to meet them, his mother stopped by and we all hung out for the night talking. We have a good sex life, and he is very affectionate and attentive when it’s just the two of us. Not so much otherwise. He treats me very well when we’re together.. Opens doors, always pays for everything (I try but he won’t allow it), if we’re at a party he makes sure I have a drink, ask if I need anything, etc.

    Sounds pretty good right?

    The problem is we don’t TALK about anything beyond general conversation. I know some of his dating history from information told to me by one of his friends, but otherwise I’d know nothing. I’m not much of a “let’s talk for hours about our feelings” type of person (at all!) but to not have meaningful conversation at all is getting very weird. ! The last person I dated (for a year and a half) was always full of compliments texted all day, we’d talk on the phone for an hour or more every night so this is a huge change. Of course, over the top lovey guy was living 2 lives, we were a few hours away from each other and he had a full-fledged long term girlfriend who he practically lived with (except when he was with me!) … So, all the words didn’t mean anything! I think if I had met this new guy prior to dating the last guy I probably would have ended things already assuming we aren’t connecting on an emotional level. However, two-timer taught me to watch actions more than someone’s words … And new guys actions are great.

    One other consideration.. He did tell me early on that he’s very shy. I have been very laid back in this relationship. I respond if he texts, answer when he calls (or call back as soon as I can) but I don’t really contact him. I don’t say anything if I don’t hear from him for a day or two, I’m not dating anyone else but have not made it clear that I’m not. I hadn’t even read this site when this relationship started either! I was just taking it slow, having fun and not having any expectations. I wonder if he might be thinking I’m not that interested… I don’t act like a lot of girls (no one would ever believe Im posting a question on a dating forum!) so maybe he isn’t sure how I feel so he’s mirroring that back to me?? Especially since he is shy and did have his heart broken a few years ago (or so his friend told me lol).

    I’m starting to really like him but don’t want to waste any more time if he’s not looking for a relationship… Or if he is looking for a relationship but is just incapable of having a deeper connection with me.

    I know it’s impossible to guess what he’s thinking but I’d appreciate any advice on how to handle this. Do you think he’s just looking for a low-key relationship, isnt all that interested but keeps hanging out because it’s fun, unsure of my feelings so he’s holding back too, or maybe just emotionally closed off and this is just how he is?? Should I say something or just let things go for a While longer and see what happens?

    #376853 Reply
    Jenna

    It sounds to me that this guy is genuinely interested in you and taking it slow. You mentioned he is shy which explains the lack of communication on his part.

    I dated a man who was very shy, and I always misunderstood his lack of communication for something else — I thought he didn’t care for me enough. But I was wrong. It was just not him to communicate a lot. It is how he is as a person. So when I mentioned I’d love hearing from him a lot and sharing more of his thoughts with me because that’s how I feel connected and cared for, he stepped up and really tried. Not because he needed to, but because he wanted to, because he knew it would make me happy.

    If you’ve been seeing each other three months exclusively, and you are wondering where this is going, I think it’s appropriate to have the talk. But it’s important to keep it very light, or he’ll feel attacked and it’ll put him in a defensive mode. Personally, I’d say something indirect like, “Some men are still hinting to date me, what do you think I should do?” If he sees you as a girlfriend, you’ll hear a tone of jealousy and he’ll make you official right away knowing he has a lot of competition out there. If he doesn’t say a word, then there’s your answer.

    #376889 Reply
    preeldSurse

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    #376925 Reply
    Lane

    HI Christian.

    If you don’t know where the guy’s taking you after a couple months of seeing you, then YOU have to start the conversation. Men don’t mind having them as long as it comes from a place of confidence of what YOU are looking for in general, not with him specifically such as “I’m not sure if your dating other woman, which is your right to do so, but I’m looking for an exclusive relationship with the right person and want to find out if we’re on the same page before we go further.”

    What this does is tell him where you stand, what you want, and what you will accept from hereon forward. If he responds with “I’m not ready” or anything that clearly shows he’s not wanting more than what you have, then its best to wish him luck and move on because he doesn’t envision a future a with you which is what a man needs to do in order to fully commit.

    Women today really need to clarify this because men have no problem being exclusive and enjoying the company of a woman but if he isn’t planning A FUTURE with you, then he’s just waiting until he crosses the path of the woman he will.

    #376931 Reply
    Stefanie

    Lane, you make an excellent point about ensuring he sees a future with you. You are so right, some men will be just fine dating you while they look for the woman they see as permanent. Happened to me a few years back. Ouch.

    Also… just for the record, EVERYONE over the age of 12 has gotten their heart broken at some point. I’m really tired of hearing this one come up as some excuse as to why a man can’t move forward. It’s like saying, oh I’m too afraid to leave the house, I fell down and skinned my knee when I was 8 and I wouldn’t want that to happen again.

    My comeback to that one is to ask him, are you an athlete, did you ever play a sport? I get a blank look because it’s so off topic. They invariably say yes, they played some sport at some point in their lives. I say, were you good at it when you started. And the answer is invariably no, because no one is. I say, did you get injured…. get tackled, fall down, fall off something, etc? And of course it’s a yes. And I say, did you walk away and refuse to ever play again? And of course they say no… and then it dawns on them where I just took them. Then I ask, did you get better the more you played and the more you understood the rules, and they say of course. And I say. life and love are no different. I rest my case. And they can’t pull the “someone hurt me so bad” block again!!

    #376936 Reply
    R

    You said it yourself – “new guy’s actions are great.”

    I think you have yourself a boyfriend :-D

    He’s maybe just someone who isn’t a big phone/texter – sometimes I think this can be a blessing in disguise.

    Maybe you just need to ask him outright, ‘are we boyfriend and girlfriend?’ x

    #376954 Reply
    Sherri

    How would you frame a question if you are dating a guy for a few months and you are exclusive but you want to know if he sees a future with you?

    I know of guys who make the girls gfs but it doesn’t go further and those girls are ok with it for a couple of years till they want to know why is this not going further. How can you suss out if the guy sees a future with you if you see a future with him?

    #376955 Reply
    Lane

    Hi Stephanie, great way to throw it back at them! Hopefully more woman will adopt it :-)

    The problem is women get so wrapped in the superficial stuff (like texting), but aren’t paying attention to the BIG PICTURE—DOES HE SEE A FUTURE WITH HER?!?

    Men don’t need a lot of cues to determine if the woman is someone they can envision a future with. They can pretty quickly determine if a woman fits their criteria of what they look for in a partner/mate/wife and if you don’t have them they they won’t express, talk, or open up about it with you. So if a man doesn’t start entwining you in his “life plan” within the first month or two, then odds are he never will.

    In a nutshell, it doesn’t matter if he texts 20 times a day or 2 times a week, what really matters is the amount of time he spends talking to you about his future plans and starts including you in it, such as “lets have this many kids”, “I want us to live here”, “I want us to do this”, “I want us to go here”—the SUBSTANTIAL stuff

    #376959 Reply
    Sherri

    But also pay attention if you are in the early stages of dating and he knows you don’t get intimate till you are exclusive. Some guys throw those words of gf/future/great match like its candy hoping you will drop ur reserve and invite them into the bedroom which is actually their main goal anyways. That’s why its so important to take things slow so that you are thinking with your head and not ur hormones.

    #376962 Reply
    HarleyH

    Sherri – you make a really good point. I think that’s what happened with the last guy I was seeing, it was so early but I totally let my guard down as he seemed so sincere. Everything was ‘lets go away for a road trip’ , ‘start planning for christmas’, ‘i dont date women who I dont see longterm potential with’ blah blah blah and I guess I believed it. then after i slept with him BOOM that was the end of all the mid/ long term plans.

    #376965 Reply
    Harley

    Yup. ..Harley H….same happened me. next time….sex is OFF the table ! when I trust him…We might do it ON the table ! ha ha ha.

    #376972 Reply
    Lane

    Good call Sherri!

    Yes, unless you know for absolutely certain the guy is ga-ga for you, don’t drop the panties :-) Women really need to go back to relying on their INTUITION moreso than emotions. Really WATCHING the guy carefully to see if he’s being truthful, honest, and forthright—a man of his word. This is how women USE to date…they would take a very long time discussing with their date(s) the pertinent details of creating a future life together (e.g., career goals, no. of kids, etc.) to see if they were on the same page.

    If a woman is so focused on the sex, then that’s the type of relationship they will create …just sayin.

    #376973 Reply
    Lane

    Lol Harley! You still crack me up!

    #376974 Reply
    HarleyH

    Lol Harley.Sounds like a good plan. Im totally putting sex off the cards now. It just makes me too vulnerable when I think the other person is on the same page as me and then it turns out they arent. Im basically on sabbatical when it comes to sex from here
    on out. :)

    #376978 Reply
    Sherri

    HarleyH … just get a vibrator ;)

    #376979 Reply
    Lane

    HarleyH, there’s ALWAYS a risk with having sex with a man, even if he IS envisioning a future with you. Although men don’t bond emotionally with sex, if its OFF even after they have established an emotional bond, they will pull out.

    There was a young lady on here recently who went through that. The guy totally bonded to her, but when they had sex for the first time months later, he broke up because the sex was really bad (no rhythm/out of sync). A woman had the same issue, they bonded were talking marriage and when they had sex for the first time she instantly lost all attraction because his penis was too small and knew that she would come to resent it. My dad even told me that my mom was lucky she didn’t give it out before they got married or he wouldn’t have married her—he described it as “it was her womanly duty”, lol.

    #376992 Reply
    Harley

    Yup. . I thought my mate had emotionally bonded with me…same values. .common Interests..
    ..friends etc…He IS a nice guy. . but it was all just a crick of bs to sex me into bed. lesson well learned.

    Lane ….shame he was such a stupid Fecker that he doesn’t realise he’s missing out on the best sex if his life !!! ha ha ha.

    #376998 Reply
    HarleyH

    @ Sherri LOL Christmas present to myself?!!!

    @ Lane this is all so difficult to gauge. to have sex/ not to have sex. My notion was always to jst go with it if it felt right. I probably missed some red flags with the last dude though. I guess a part of me did wonder was I crap? Because it felt pretty good to me and I do think I know the difference b/w good sex/ bad sex by now. But if I dwell on that I will jst move into a spiral of anxiety/ self doubt and thats something I refuse to go down.

    @Harley sounds really horrible. Its hard when youve started to trust someone and then you realise how wrong you were. sounds like youve come out stronger for it though.

    #377001 Reply
    Harley

    Ha! harley h…I’m just taking it day to day…like yourself. .It felt right to have sex….was the most magical romantic night of my life.. .but I guess he weren’t just feeling it. It sucks…but I’ll survive. hope I’m stronger next time I see him and am over him. We have friends in common so bound to see him over the next few yrs. Thank god he’s not in the same country. but ad is typical In life…what’s the odds he’ll be in touch at some stage. but yep…I’ve set my boundaries now ! You live and learn.

    #377002 Reply
    Sherri

    Yep, I remember that lady who had come here and they had had sex after dating for 4 months and then he didn’t contact her again and she was quite inexperienced. I remember her saying was it all only about sex? And when I told my FWB this scenario, the first words out of his mouth was … the sex must have totally sucked. Yes, it is really important to be sexually compatible. I refuse to be in a relationship with someone before trying them out in bed first. I was married to an asexual man for 10 years. Don’t want to get into that again. Also I usually only have sex when I feel the time is right and when I am sure that the guy is sexually exclusive with me. I have that arrangement with my FWB too and we both are open to meeting others. I do want to explore more though so I think I will have a talk with him soon ….. ;)

    #377006 Reply
    Juliette

    I think the biggest thing is to let it develop over time. Make sure he is consistent with how he treats you and remember that actions are more important than words. He can say you are his gf, he can say you are exclusive, he can say all these amazing things about the future but actions are harder to be consistent with. I waited quite awhile to sleep with the guy I am seeing now in spite of the fact that it felt totally right and there were opportunities long before we actually did. Everyone is different but at this point in my life with this guy, it has seemed to make a big difference. It is NOT EASY TO WAIT though!
    Patience has been the biggest key for me in making this successful. Being patient with the relationship developing, being patient with him, being patient with myself. All of it takes time and EVERYONE is on a different timeline.
    It sounds like you might feel more secure if you had more communication from him (this is very common) so how about saving the relationship talk for later and for now just let him know that you love hearing from him and how happy his calls and texts make you.

    #377014 Reply
    Lane

    Harley, I honestly think if you hadn’t bolted the first time it would have been very different story. The second time was based moreso on nostalgia, rather than reality, being that you lived in two different counties, too much time/distance, and being on different paths.

    I’ve had those nostalgic thoughts—-wondering what my life would have been like if I decided to marry Travis, Don or Ed instead of Paul (my ex) and I know that I made the best choice even though it didn’t go as planned.

    #377091 Reply
    Harley

    Ha LANE…… you’re mixing my men up I think. You’d swear I had a harem …….. or a brothel !

    Mike.. the yank ,, was the one I bolted on. I’ve well move on from him….he’s a committment phobe !

    The one I’m talking about above is Frank,… the German… the latest one. he thought I was ok with a one night stand, so did I, then I wanted more, he didn’t.

    And yes Christan.. some guys do go slow………. but better they do nd you monitor them and know they are for real.. rather than the flaky crash and burn types.

    #377116 Reply
    Christan

    Wow, thank you all for the great advice!

    Stefanie, love your take on the “I’ve been hurt” bit. So true!

    I was married for 20 years so am still relatively new to dating (have been divorced 5 years but didn’t start dating right away). I don’t remember ever in my life having to have “the talk”, it’s usually been very obvious and just evolved naturally. But I think Lane is right, I need to just let him know what I want and let him decide if he’s interested in the same. I’ll be sure to come back and let y’all know how it goes!

    Thanks again.

    #377160 Reply
    Ivy

    Lack of depth in communication is slightly a red flag at 3 months. Typically when I find a guy is avoiding more meaningful conversation I have found that he only wanted a fling. That is my experience, this guy could be shy and private but if he really isn’t trying to know you on a deeper level then I would be a bit concerned. And if you aren’t bringing up important topics then you need to start doing that. Don’t let a year go by and not know important things to be able to determine if you are compatible or not.

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