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    Ava

    I met a guy about 6 months ago now. On the first date he told me without any prompting that he was seeing other people and wanted to carry on dating a few people. This suited me because I’m in a training programme at the moment which is really intense and the last couple of guys I’ve dated have struggled not to have more of my time. He’s divorced, and has been separated a couple of years with a 7 year old boy he has 50% custody of. He has had one relationship since which was 8 months though they were apart for a lot of it because of the pandemic, he ended that 9 months before we met.

    By date 3 he told me that he felt like he might want something more serious with me. This was more of a passing comment than a discussion but since then he’s mentioned every time he’s seen me that he sees it going somewhere and he thinks we’re a good match/I’m what he’s looking for and he’d like me to be his girlfriend.

    We’ve seen each other every couple of weeks since then. At the moment though I’m in the area occasionally anyway I usually live a few hours away so when we see each other we spend the whole weekend and a day or two either side. I speak to him every day, he initiates more often than not.

    In general we get on very well, he’s handsome, intelligent, charismatic, funny and we have a lot of chemistry. On the other hand he’s disorganised, can be quite thoughtless and sometimes abrupt to the point of rudeness. To be fair I mentioned the latter to him and he said he thought it was a cultural thing (he’s French and I’m English) and recently I haven’t really noticed this so I guess he’s making a point not to be.

    The reason I’ve been skirting the topic of being official is partly because of that, partly because my last serious relationship had a period of long ish distance at the end which was really tough (and it’ll be at least another year before I can move) but mostly (now at least) because since the beginning he’s been dating lots of other people and actively pursuing new connections all the time. Initially it was mostly just FWB but there have been a few who he sees once a week or so, and will sometimes have a date without sleeping with.

    I’ve never asked him to stop but I think it’s obvious as time has gone on that I don’t really like it, though he always wants to tell me when he meets someone new and because we text every day he always mentions when he’s going on a date. He says that they all know about me within a few dates (I believe him since he told me straight away and I know some have ultimately chucked him when he’s told them he doesn’t want to date them monogamously) and that whilst he cares for them all (I think this is genuinely true, he doesn’t just use people for sex there’s always some friendship) he doesn’t see them the same way as me. He says for the moment at least that won’t change but obviously in the long term I’m going to have to make a decision. He says he’d be very happy to only see me even if it was long distance but he’d want a bit more (I don’t even really know what he means by this). He’s so far always put me first when it comes to making plans (obviously only when his son isn’t with him) though often I wish I could talk to him more but he’s out on dates.

    I know it’s a catch-22 situation but I feel like if he really liked me enough to make it work long term he would have probably stopped seeing other women before he proposed us dating exclusively, and if not at that point then definitely as we’ve got closer. Or at least that his interest in meeting new women would wane which is definitely not the case. So I’m reluctant to offer more and feel like I should have seen it coming if he decides in a couple of years time he’s missing the variety (I also wonder is it really normal for a guy to want to date 5 women at the same, is that not a sign that maybe he’s not quite ready to move on after the divorce (it was a mutual decision), or that he’s not really that into monogamy generally). But then I wonder if part of this is being driven by him feeling hurt that I’m not more enthusiastic at this point. I had a couple of other dates right at the beginning but I’ve kind of lost my drive to get to know other men, and even if I hadn’t I just don’t have the time/energy. He knows this and has said he doesn’t mind either as things stand if I want to see other people, though a couple of months in I did almost arrange something and he got a bit weird about it.

    At the moment I’m enjoying the time I spend with him but the interim periods are getting more uncomfortable and I’m not really sure whether I should go all in or back away entirely. For reference we’re both early/mid thirties.

    #929266 Reply
    Dex

    It’s clear to me you want him to yourself. Correct me if I am wrong. So- have you bothered to tell him you don’t want him to see anyone else anymore? Are you capable of doing so? How would you feel if he completely said no, skirted the question, or just walked away from you with no warning? Are you prepared for that and would you be okay?

    Like most posters, you kind of have the answer right there in your question, but just go with me here because I’m trying to lead you to see the light

    #929267 Reply
    Ava

    I’ve told him I wouldn’t want to be in a long term relationship with anyone that wasn’t exclusive (e.g. not interested in open/poly things). He’s said that he’d be happy for that, he’s offered to stop seeing people multiple times without being asked but it’s always on the condition that we officially become a couple.

    I’m not worried what he would say if I asked for exclusivity now, I’m fairly certain he’d initially be very happy since he’s been asking me for months and that he’d break off his other connections straight away (I don’t think he’s a cheater), what concerns me is what would happen a year or so down the line since in all my previous relationships, even the ones that didn’t go that far, the exclusivity has come before the promises of introductions to family/friends etc so it feels off to me.

    #929275 Reply
    Raven

    No one can predict the future. You have to take chances…

    #929279 Reply
    Maddie

    He was married for a while, and if you’re not exclusive or monogamous because you are the one who told him no for several months, then assume he’s taking you at your word. I don’t think him continuing to date other women and hook up casually means anything other than you’re not official and he can, so why not. Especially after he was presumably with only his wife for a while, so why not have fun if he’s single. That does NOT mean he’ll get bored or choose to not be monogamous if you both choose to commit, but have you discussed any of that with him? Was he always monogamous and loyal to his ex wife? Did he like being monogamous with her, and is that what he’s looking for long-term with someone? Do you know why they didn’t work out?

    If he’s saying if you’re officially together he’ll want more, I read that as you’re only seeing him twice a month now and he’ll want to see you more often so the distance doesn’t feel as much. You can and should ask him to clarify his expectations, though. He’s also not your ex, so don’t project what happened when you went long-distance with him on to this situation, it’s a completely different person.

    It sounds to me like you’re scared and have more to talk to him about in regards to what you both actually want. You can’t control what may or may not happen in a year, especially when you haven’t experienced what a committed relationship with him even feels like yet. Maybe it won’t end up being something you are happy with after all, or maybe it’ll be amazing. But if you don’t make a decision then nothing happens and things stay where they’re at. Which doesn’t sound like it’s quite what you want anymore.

    #929280 Reply
    Maddie

    (It also sounds to me like he’s dating a lot because he’s not someone who likes spending time alone, which is why it’ll be good to get clarity on how often he’ll want to see you if you’re official but long-distance.)

    #929290 Reply
    Ewa

    no offence, I know you said you are cool with him dating other women etc but I am quite surprised that he is actually telling you he is going on a date with another woman…
    if it was other way around , the guy, even if he didn’t want anything serious would just tell you see you later and be gone.
    it is ok to assume someone is dating others but if someone is bluntly telling you they are still looking I wouldn’t want anything serious with this person

    #929319 Reply
    Ava

    Thanks all.

    Maddie to answer your questions he was with his wife for about ten years including the time they spent dating. It ended because (maybe this is partly what’s giving me pause) they decided to include other people in their sex life (they did have some sexual interest incompatibility which we don’t). It was agreed it’d be a physical thing only but after a year she met someone she wanted to date romantically too, she didn’t want to break up but wouldn’t stop seeing the other guy and so he left. It sounds like they’d been having a lot of other problems (general bickering etc.) for years before and this was part of the issue rather than the whole thing.

    They’ve quite admirably managed to maintain a good relationship for their son. She asked since to try again but he says it’s not something he’d consider because of all the other problems they had. He’s said they were together monogamously for nearly ten years and during that time he wasn’t interested in other women at all, when they were playing with others he said he never felt any romantic confusion and that it isn’t hard for him generally to avoid this (and so if I need time I shouldn’t worry that he’ll meet someone else he wants something serious with because it’s not what he’s looking for). He said he thinks ultimately he’s a monogamous person and he likes to have that connection with someone.

    I don’t think it’s a time thing, he has his son every other weekend anyway. He coincidentally got in touch this morning wanting to talk about it all. He was telling me how much he liked me and wanted me to be part of his life and I said it’s just a bit weird for me to hear this knowing you’ve seen a couple of other women in the last few days, that generally when I like someone I lose interest in other people. He said that because he doesn’t really know what I want from him he needs to date other people to try and protect himself from falling for me, he said he still felt vulnerable at times and he worried one day I’d just disappear.

    Ewa – what you said is my point really. It started out I think (genuinely) as an attempt to keep everyone well informed so he could have meaningful relationships with people and not have to deceive any of them. Over time a part of me cynically thinks it’s morphed into trying to make me jealous to test my feelings for him or to strong arm me into asking for a relationship, though to be fair there was a period earlier on where I was quite curious about the other people he was dating and so if he mentioned them I would ask questions and be interested to know what they were like so if I’m being really charitable perhaps it was just a habit. Strangely until the last month or so I didn’t really feel overly jealous.

    I think we’ve just got into a bit of a vicious cycle that my reaction to him dating other people is to not really want to rush into anything serious with him and his reaction to me not wanting to commit to something serious is to date other people. I guess you’re all right in that I won’t know until I try.

    #929321 Reply
    Maddie

    That makes more sense. His ex wasn’t fully in it and it sounds possible that they tried different ways to address it and he kept acquiescing but she kept pushing the goal posts another notch until she was full blown asking him to be okay with her having a boyfriend! If he feels you’re not (yet) fully in it either, he’s scared of a repeat difficult relationship. But, honestly, after several months, he should be walking away with no hard feelings if you don’t want the same things he does, not casually dating tons of other women he’s not emotionally available to while waiting around indefinitely for you to figure it out. That’s the red flag to me, though it’s the opposite type of baggage than what you’re concerned about. But anyway, since he’s still telling you he wants a monogamous relationship with you and prefers monogamy, take him at his word unless he shows you otherwise once you’ve agreed to give it a try (assuming that’s what you want, too).

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